The CFG Game Cast

[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the CFG Gamecast episode number two, seventy three, a weekly podcast career by gamers and streamers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am Mr. Sea of Games himself, David Screener with me today.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got my two awesome gamers.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got pop in the second seat.

[SPEAKER_01]: What is going on, pop how are you doing?

[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, I'm doing good.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've had a really decent week gotten back into streaming with the new PC, which I absolutely love.

[SPEAKER_02]: I run super smooth.

[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't had any issues.

[SPEAKER_02]: just I have not bought a game on my consoles.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've had this piece of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: You haven't even gotten up.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny.

[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't even gotten a new game like Ninja getting rage bound comes out this week.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm probably gonna get it on PC.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've come this week.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've come this week.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it's coming to game pass.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'll have to check.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, Shinobi's coming out next month.

[SPEAKER_02]: I, there of course there are some games that I will always play on console for reasons like, you know, the access series and me being one of the few console speed runners for some of those games.

[SPEAKER_02]: But outside of that, like, I PSO, I haven't played that on PlayStation since I got my PC streaming has been such a such a great time.

[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't had any issues with OBS.

[SPEAKER_02]: OBS would always try and blow up on me, but it has not.

[SPEAKER_01]: Nice, yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Surprisingly.

[SPEAKER_02]: But we'll see once I get the

[SPEAKER_02]: thing you're rolling with my V-Troom on which her head has to be re-rigged and then my new PNG is underworked.

[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a date on when that's going to be all fully done to have your animated animated animated avatar?

[SPEAKER_02]: No date.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a working progress right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's awesome.

[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, but pop.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you know, who is the black version of Ted Lasso that knows how to play football.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

[SPEAKER_01]: Did you?

[SPEAKER_02]: You and happened to be talking about.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm talking about the five star general of the Eddie Bitty Smith.

[SPEAKER_01]: The committee.

[SPEAKER_01]: I got this video on the third.

[SPEAKER_01]: See what's going on.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's ready.

[SPEAKER_01]: You got to miss Ted Lasso's title.

[SPEAKER_00]: I love, you know, I, I fell off Ted Lazo in the middle of the second season.

[SPEAKER_00]: I need to restart the second season and go through that because I did enjoy the show.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember if they broke it up and that's why or I had some reason I fell off and I just never I just haven't gone back to it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I wasn't joined.

[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't join the first season of Ted Lasso.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's on the list.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've been checking things off finished black mirror finish love love that then robots Work in my way through the second season of day into Dan and What else came post that one that came back second motto days second motto days also came back which I'm really enjoying second motto days

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even watch those.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I have an on Netflix.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I need to watch that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen it.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's so much Netflix I haven't seen.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even funny.

[SPEAKER_01]: I need to watch that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I need to watch Scott Pilgrim.

[SPEAKER_01]: The animation show and like this is

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, food.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, what's called the dungeon food dungeon?

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, there was some dungeon.

[SPEAKER_00]: We've been in the dungeon.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: I've got a lot of that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see all that.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's really good.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: I watched the first episode and I'm like, I need to go.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I liked it.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's like I need to watch all of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was how you doing smoothie.

[SPEAKER_00]: Doing well, doing well.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just staying busy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, the girls get back sometime this week.

[SPEAKER_00]: We just been grinding, cleaning all that stuff, preparing because summers almost over for them.

[SPEAKER_00]: As his birthday is coming up here too, as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like you alluded to earlier, we got a busy week ahead of us with evo coming up next weekend, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: It's next weekend.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, no.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this following.

[SPEAKER_01]: We can come up with this.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we got we got a busy week ahead.

[SPEAKER_00]: So just planning and and what we're going to do there.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm excited about all that stuff going on.

[SPEAKER_00]: Gaming wise.

[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously we were we were playing some DK bananas the last night.

[SPEAKER_00]: Just enjoying that play through got on some Mario Kart world as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: We did all right.

[SPEAKER_00]: We got a couple dubs on on the online play.

[SPEAKER_00]: So

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, oh, yeah, other not just and and then just work on my dynasty and college football, twenty six.

[SPEAKER_00]: So those have kind of been the the focal points of things right now.

[SPEAKER_00]: So.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, here you go.

[SPEAKER_01]: But here's a question because I'm going to keep your countable.

[SPEAKER_01]: Smitty.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have no.

[SPEAKER_01]: How far are you on the go to Sishima?

[SPEAKER_00]: I was.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still fairly early on.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still an act one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I haven't.

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't touch it at all the last like couple weeks or so.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just haven't had time to like really, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like my time has been spent.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, obviously with the two new games a lot of my time has been spent on those.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I just kind of put that to the side for a moment until I can burn out one of the games.

[SPEAKER_00]: at least, I think.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, then you hurry up on it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Can you remember the next one's October?

[SPEAKER_01]: So there's another deadline.

[SPEAKER_01]: The first week of October is to keep that in mind.

[SPEAKER_00]: I need to put that, I need to put that in the calendar.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's right, dude.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.

[SPEAKER_00]: Can I just go find me so fast?

[SPEAKER_00]: We got time, though.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like if I burn through, like I could burn through that game, you know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_00]: The challenge is going to be me not doing all the side stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: You will never burn through any game dude, every time you say that it's like it's not gonna take you years, bro

[SPEAKER_01]: every time.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have time to do it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know what, you're always that person.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's like, you know what, it's easy.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to be that long.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, I was mistaken.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like I was wrong.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was wrong.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's funny.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I finished that training one.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, we know that's that's a dead cause.

[SPEAKER_00]: We know we don't play on playing a second one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I started getting deep in the first one.

[SPEAKER_00]: I did start getting deep in the first one.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I was there.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just need to.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, what's hard sometimes?

[SPEAKER_01]: When did you start that again?

[SPEAKER_01]: What?

[SPEAKER_01]: Death Stranding.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, when did you actually start playing it when I restart it?

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, probably like what like two months ago, maybe or so.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm done before the first one came out or the second.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not that bad as like Billy your solid five then.

[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, no.

[SPEAKER_00]: No.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that so like I started originally like when Nick come out.

[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, this was came out on PS four.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd say about how to been four or five years ago.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it may be as bad then.

[SPEAKER_01]: I love it a little bit like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I like you second guest yourself in the middle of that.

[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, no, no, it wasn't that bad.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's creep it up on being just as bad as Matt.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's Kojima.

[SPEAKER_00]: I love Kojima, but like,

[SPEAKER_00]: I just had like it takes forever to get through there too many games now.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe this is your relationship because you know, because that's two games do that's a pattern at this point.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's starting to turn.

[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like also when I was playing his games earlier on, you're a lot less games than I had.

[SPEAKER_00]: to play, so I was able to focus on one game at a time, whereas not, I've like, I pretend I could do like ten at a time, and it's not even feasible, they're not easy.

[SPEAKER_01]: That is very true.

[SPEAKER_01]: That is very easy way.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.

[SPEAKER_00]: What about you?

[SPEAKER_00]: How was y'all week?

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man, I'm been busy as always, not in surprising here all day, every day, pretty much, but yeah, I've been getting ready, just I've been getting packed, getting set up for Evo, twenty twenty five.

[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been the Evo in about

[SPEAKER_01]: Man, five years.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's been about five years.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so it's been a little bit.

[SPEAKER_01]: So to see it grow where it's going to go, you know, it's going to be insane.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've gotten so many things because I have set up already for EVO.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've already made, like I'm going to definitely take advantage.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to use this bad boy.

[SPEAKER_01]: My, my, my Osmo three.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: To try out, try to do some good videos without, like, you know, carrying a rig with me.

[SPEAKER_01]: So the ugly looking forward to that.

[SPEAKER_01]: and just hopefully just having a great, great time there as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, game-wise, I haven't played anything.

[SPEAKER_01]: I need to get back on Neo-to.

[SPEAKER_01]: I've been wanting to play Neo-to some more.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I need to play a fight.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just been wanting to play a fighting game, but I don't know why.

[SPEAKER_01]: Pop, what should I play?

[SPEAKER_01]: You've been playing fighting games more recently than I have.

[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't been playing.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, no.

[SPEAKER_02]: The new DLC comes out this month.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I don't care about the other night.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Lucy's about to come out and strive.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's still summer.

[SPEAKER_02]: She'll probably get an ounce or like revealed at EVO and then like, all right, here she goes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's with that cyber point.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's right.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's our other cyber point did.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, that was a new character they announced.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so unicorns from the.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the anime.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you're right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be pretty cool.

[SPEAKER_01]: So the the best thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I might go back to strive or so three, five or six.

[SPEAKER_01]: I am wanting to, but for some reason, I just haven't had a drive to as of late.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been wanting to it's just been sitting there in my on my shelf for a long time, but we'll see tech and I really wish I could, but I suck a tech and

[SPEAKER_01]: I really do suck attack it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so but anyways, but yeah, but no, but I really want to get to Neo too.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see how much of a her fluff.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the dead count right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it's at twenty seven.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see where it's going to be at.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm making strides.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to fight the real the a boss here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Really.

[SPEAKER_01]: See what?

[SPEAKER_02]: That's not bad for early game.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is the first stage though, isn't it?

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this is not including the prology stage that totally tore my soul apart after I realized I took too much time.

[SPEAKER_01]: I thought I'll find the story.

[SPEAKER_02]: You're far enough to the point where I've seen people die.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I've seen people get fifty deaths all at the first of many bucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, let's see.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.

[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, but anyways, well, yeah, we'll see.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see what I wanted to do at least one stream before I go to Evo.

[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully maybe maybe on Wednesday or so, but anyways.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I know, yeah, I don't want to talk about the streaming strategies or my streaming plans because we know it's all over the place.

[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go through the normal rig and roll that we like to do each and every week.

[SPEAKER_01]: So each of us chooses a topic or discussion in the world of video games, the topic would or could.

[SPEAKER_01]: be a game itself or something that happened in the gaming industry and we do not want to talk about the monks ourselves.

[SPEAKER_01]: We want you the listeners and viewers on twitch and on YouTube to be a part of the conversation.

[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're something you want to try and being about or wanting to talk about it by all being just type it inside the chat.

[SPEAKER_01]: We will talk with you and go from there.

[SPEAKER_01]: So

[SPEAKER_01]: We have a real interesting week of gaming or topics we wanted to talk about.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like it's all over the place.

[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of random things are happening for the first time ever for me, like in my opinion, because that might have been correct me if I'm wrong, but like all this stuff is just flat out weird.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's all for seeing territory for a lot of different things that are happening here.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, first off, the big thing that I was noticing was that Microsoft, as you know, ever since I wanted to say, was it the summer game fest?

[SPEAKER_01]: They announced that they're upcoming releases.

[SPEAKER_01]: They were all they're upcoming releases in this year.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be moving up to eighty dollars.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the outer world was going to be the first one that they were playing to release at an eighty dollar price tag.

[SPEAKER_01]: Literally this week they did a statement saying that they were wanting that they're rolling back that decision and moving it back down to seventy dollars.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what's weird about it to me?

[SPEAKER_01]: There's two things that's weird about it to me is that one, the one thing that we've always said about about change when it comes to gaming is that people need to vote with their wallets.

[SPEAKER_01]: And it seems like this in this case, it seems like unanimously, a lot of people did say that said, hell no, we're not going to spend the eighty dollars.

[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make any sense for us to be spending eighty dollars every not getting a difference in like, you know,

[SPEAKER_01]: a feel or reasoning on why it's going going as high as it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: And to the fact that Microsoft decided to say we're going to roll back not just the out of the world from eighty to seventy, but for the rest of the year, this is only a temporary win.

[SPEAKER_01]: The rest of the year, any games that come out this year is going to be at the seventy dollar price tag at the highest.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, they say, they have to say that the change came after a widespread criticism impact in the other worlds too for the holiday titles.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know if that's something that was, I mean, the criticism was the reasoning.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was a matter of people, the realizing how low was the reservation, the reservation must have been abysmal for them to say, okay, this is not working.

[SPEAKER_01]: We need to do something fast and we'll do it this way.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's rumors that it's going to be a multi-platform game, so it's going to be on PPS five, and I don't know about the switch to, possibly on the switch to, but it's not, not heard of yet.

[SPEAKER_01]: But if that is the case, I can understand why they're wanting to

[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing what they're wanting to do because I believe was the other world two other world two was going to be a day one release on the Xbox game pass in my right it is Okay, so yeah, so with that with that in mind I they're wanting to there's still wanting to sell the game But if to sell the numbers with that low and then they're going to be dealing and then they're saying okay, we need we need to do something drastic as that

[SPEAKER_01]: Is wild, especially a cup of like Microsoft does say saying, yeah, we're going to do this.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to re-neg on what we said we're going to do the jack the price of everything else except for I guess now like remembered like the the Xbox Series X now cost six hundred dollars and say five hundred dollars and like in.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like the same thing for the Xbox Series S, it's a little bit higher.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's fifty dollars more than what it was initially initially came out to be.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's it's weird.

[SPEAKER_01]: I just wish that we there was stats.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one thing I really wish about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like what was go what the heck's going on?

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I would love to see what like what led them to this decision like to say like, oh yeah, out of the world's two was not.

[SPEAKER_01]: performing the way we wanted it to for a game that at that scope so we're doing we're doing this, you know, so what are your all's opinions about this?

[SPEAKER_00]: For me, the whole and this is like one of the biggest things when this would an Nintendo originally, you know, came out saying that they're going to be selling some games for eighty dollars.

[SPEAKER_00]: I was just like, oh man, that's going to open the floodgates and you know, sure enough, it wasn't too long after that Microsoft was like,

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, this is going to be eighty dollars is officially going to be their first game that's eighty dollars.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think what I from what I saw

[SPEAKER_00]: Generally, I think the team from obsidian was not really feeling that price point, even though they had nothing to, they had no say within it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously the community came out and were like, you know, they were, they were talking about it as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm wondering if that had

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, anything to do with them taking a look and being like, oh, maybe we should we should take a step back.

[SPEAKER_00]: But for me, especially as a consumer is what exactly determines an eighty dollar game versus a seventy dollar game versus a sixty dollar game versus a fifty dollar game.

[SPEAKER_00]: at least from a seventy-dollar game to an eighty-dollar game like I really need to like I feel like for a lot of people that kind of puts it into a new like pricing bracket whereas some people are a little more you know there'll be a little more uh... have the ability to get something that's seventy-dollar sixty-nine ninety-nine versus something as seventy-nine ninety-nine and I just don't know what that metric is or what what's the term in it and now the fact that they've

[SPEAKER_00]: They've, you know, taken, you know, gone back on it.

[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like it was just an arbitrary, like, we're just going to slap an eight dollar price tag on to just go.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what I feel.

[SPEAKER_00]: Totally right.

[SPEAKER_01]: Totally right.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what do you like?

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, what, like, I need to know more info in terms of where they are coming up with this pricing because

[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like they just did it just to do it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And now it's a mirror like, oh, sorry, my bad.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not only that, but it was also it's really weird.

[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like it goes a weird marketing move to

[SPEAKER_00]: make an announcement and video about the fact that you guys misprice this game and now are going back and and and making it sixty nine ninety nine like a lot of time people just be like we're just going to do that we're not going to you don't need to make a big deal out of it we're not going to say anything about but I guess they kind of made a spectacle of it when they said this is going to be our first eighty dollar game

[SPEAKER_00]: So they were they almost pigeonholed themselves into being like now we gotta say something about this because we made such a big deal about it before so I think it's a smart move on their part.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was dumb.

[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't understand where they're coming up with these eighty-dollar games and how they're justifying the the increase you know, but

[SPEAKER_00]: I guess we'll see.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not mad at this move.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a smart move on their part.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I haven't even played the outer world.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I'm kind of helping never will to be honest to you for you.

[SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't be a game.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I'm not, it's not, it's not me.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is not me.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is the top now.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to play it.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is a challenge.

[SPEAKER_00]: This is the take this.

[SPEAKER_00]: Stop.

[SPEAKER_00]: Stop.

[SPEAKER_00]: Stop.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying before twenty twenty five is over.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny, but uh, okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: That would love to see that would be if you do.

[SPEAKER_01]: I will be awesome if you did because it's a good game.

[SPEAKER_01]: I will get never to give it that.

[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think pop?

[SPEAKER_02]: my thought process is along the same because first of all eight dollars is pretty steep for a game and that's excluding you know people want to get the deluxe edition or get any pre-order bonuses which to my knowledge those who pre-order did get refunded not quite sure how that works but getting refunded the difference but I would like to see they they got to start showing us some information as to a justification for these prices because you know people

[SPEAKER_02]: How much a game offers is always subjective amongst gamers, but you can't argue numbers if they show us the numbers.

[SPEAKER_02]: People still complain, but it'll be more so, oh, you know, this is why that happened versus, you know, people paying for the game, like, oh, you know, it's definitely worth this price because you get to do X, Y and Z and someone else being like, no, because I only played it once to show us the numbers and people probably talk less.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's funny because I think the, I think it's, I think it's a, I think it's a, I think it's midi kind of nailed it on the head on like, where are the getting these numbers at the eighty dollars on this doesn't make any sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, to Cyther's point, I'm going to have to come back to some of the chats.

[SPEAKER_01]: But like in the from scientists point saying that eighty dollars your good he's good with but hundred dollars he's good with if the game is full release bug free at launch and has reviewed before release to give a valid expectation for the multiple unbiased sources which absolutely is the way that everyone should look at a game because like to say to to justify

[SPEAKER_01]: you're playing this much money in the game that's not complete or saying, oh, it's going to be coming in six or seven months is insane to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that is the biggest beef that I've always had with these with what people always asking.

[SPEAKER_01]: Pay us first, but we promise we're going to get you your game later.

[SPEAKER_01]: I never like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: And so.

[SPEAKER_01]: But what's weird is that development for this game like out of the world is not something that happened in like the last year.

[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a game has been happening probably for a long time, five or six years, probably tops.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is a good while.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then the feel of them of them coming at you, especially to the consumer, the day one of them.

[SPEAKER_01]: at summer game test saying this is going to be our first eighty dollar game reject in the price of the eighty dollars because it's going to be eighty dollars.

[SPEAKER_01]: This game was probably being made while the Xbox one was was was coming out and we're telling me like like you're not justifying the reasoning of this price hike and yet you're just assuming that us as a consumer is just going to pay it just do it we're not I mean we like as we've always said Nintendo run goes up

[SPEAKER_01]: goes on the beat of their own drum because they can get, they get away with their for some odd reason, but they do.

[SPEAKER_01]: But you can't just be like, the expectations to be like, okay, we're just going to take it without saying anything.

[SPEAKER_01]: In the last five years, we've jumped from sixty dollars to eighty dollars, theoretically, sixty dollars to eighty dollar games, which is the fastest I've ever seen any, any game hikes that's been, that's been consistently happening, which is insane to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like,

[SPEAKER_01]: I think the matter of eighty dollars, like I'm fine with eighty dollars to Cyprus, a reasoning of it too, makes a lot of sense.

[SPEAKER_01]: But we're not there.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're nowhere near it right now, you know?

[SPEAKER_01]: Even like the Mario Kart, Mario Kart world was eighty dollars.

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that was the idea.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know you get more.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't care.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: My car, my car world was an immediate cash grab because he knew it was going to sell regardless of whatever it was.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like remember that meme that I showed you with a JJ on the Javasson talking to Toby McGuire, Spider-Man saying like, oh, yes, Spider-Man pictures.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll give you two hundred that he says four hundred.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, what?

[SPEAKER_01]: That's preposterous.

[SPEAKER_01]: Here is four hundred dollars.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there was a, there was a, there was a give it to you at that point.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like, yeah, it's just,

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I wouldn't like smart move on Microsoft.

[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't even call it smart.

[SPEAKER_01]: I think they needed it.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is something they needed to happen.

[SPEAKER_01]: They openly just, they openly said, the public is going to pay eighty dollars regardless of what we are because we are Microsoft.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be selling these games at this point.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then the public said, we're not paying that much for for out of two.

[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to pay that much for that game.

[SPEAKER_01]: Are you mad?

[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, like, there's no way.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know what, you know what, you know what, you know what, you know what, I think, you know, if it was eighty dollars get the die thing that they could get away with, I seriously think they would because it's been such a long time.

[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a war.

[SPEAKER_01]: The gear's a war zero day or something.

[SPEAKER_01]: Even though the game, I don't think it's going to be like

[SPEAKER_01]: great or you know superb in the level but I think that we've it's been so long so much time and it's it's own different kind of you know style that I think that people are willing to would be willing to pay for that for that kind of game if it's gonna be an engine that was meant on the next gen in the next gen alone you know or PC you know so so yeah, but it's it's crazy So let's I mean if you have anything else to say I'm gonna grow roll up on the track as good God

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

[SPEAKER_00]: He, uh, defavers, uh, was going on up there.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I totally understand to where they're coming from.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's some games.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think some games that it doesn't matter what a person, what they put.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like GTA six, I think is going to be an example.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even think that's going to be eighty dollars.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's going to be closer like a hundred and twenty dollars.

[SPEAKER_00]: If you know what I mean, and I think they'll be able to get away with it because they put a lot into it as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, look at GTA five, this game has been around for what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Fifteen years, twelve years?

[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty-three or two, I believe.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so whatever, whatever, do the math.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's been around for a grip and it just, it's just literally generating revenue hand over foot to where they haven't had to do anything else other than focus on that game.

[SPEAKER_00]: And now they've got this base, they've got this idea and it's infrastructure that they're going to be able to build off of and moving forward.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that's a good example of where I think you can price that at a higher price point and people are going to pay it and, you know, they can justify with as much content and not only that, but then the user generated content that comes from it is a huge market now as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I think that's an example of a game that will be able to price higher and it will be justified.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's see seven figures says eighty dollar games is a any game you sell after killing companies you acquired for game past you know after the console price hikes cause money was burned at an alarming rate.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know like the

[SPEAKER_01]: The big companies buy by studios.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one thing I've always worried about.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's always going to be something like this.

[SPEAKER_01]: It always happens when it comes to this.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think with the amount of spending that Microsoft has done throughout the past like the most recent like the past ten years with the big studios.

[SPEAKER_01]: being the biggest one, the activation blizzard for sixty something billion dollars that they're not looking at game quality.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're looking at trying to get their their revenue back and they're trying to get their their their stuff back and then you kind of way.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then back to what you said did say earlier before that point when you're saying you think that Microsoft hasn't been doing well since game passing buying those game companies.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, like from what the information that I have from Microsoft, which is incredibly little is I would like I see what they're wanting to do, but I just I don't ever get what that like how they consider this to be profitable like at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: None of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because it doesn't make any sense to me.

[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that I know that they're wanting to be a place that's all play everywhere and anywhere in stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, you have all your games accessible through game paths, which is theoretically a Netflix thing.

[SPEAKER_01]: So they get a bigger piece of that pie, but however, they're still taking the revenue for all these other game companies and stickers are within it.

[SPEAKER_01]: doesn't make any sense to me on keeping it up and it makes on top of that all the studios that you bought are big AAA studios so how are you would you consider that to be a success if they if you're not getting or not focusing on getting like someone going to a storm paying full value seventy or eighty bucks for that said game or for it has been a unit sold like you I feel like that

[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that hurts yourself in some sort of way.

[SPEAKER_01]: The only game that I can see that I see that was truly successful in that eye was expedition thirty three.

[SPEAKER_01]: The expedition thirty three wasn't a AAA title.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was a it was a game that was from came out at fifty bucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was sold on multiple platforms.

[SPEAKER_01]: People were buying it on multiple platforms.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then and yet and then it was still a day one on the on the Xbox Game Pass.

[SPEAKER_01]: But you can legitimately say that game sold six million units.

[SPEAKER_01]: And you know that that's what that's what's coming up, but like if you if you see a game like out of worlds too, that's made by obsidian, those games are not cheap.

[SPEAKER_01]: If you see games like Activision's Call of Duty, six or seven or whatever that's coming out, the black off six or seven, then those games are not cheap, but then you're expecting and then you're expecting to do DLC content maps upgrades and all these extra microtransactions and yet you like

[SPEAKER_00]: what what would constitute as success if you can't even see any of all that so that that's what that's what I'm worried about of side there makes a good point about uh... mobile companies and how much because i think you're right mobile gaming they are making

[SPEAKER_00]: boatloads of money in the profitability of them.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look at there's a number of companies and I know it's talked about a lot less, but of mobile developers and companies that that have been acquired.

[SPEAKER_00]: I know Tencent is a very active in that space as well, where they do have, you're talking about why don't they release on both PC, console, and mobile platforms?

[SPEAKER_00]: Look at once human.

[SPEAKER_00]: Once human is on PC console and mobile platforms, you've got other games that are as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: You've got something like Netflix games, which they're looking to expand as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: I still think their UI needs more work, but they very much, it's like just having mobile games.

[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing is that it's underneath right now their subscription model.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what they look at or how they go about making that a parapherable venture, but it's definitely something that they're going towards.

[SPEAKER_00]: But you're right, the mobile gaming industry in terms of money is huge.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you will see Microsoft that more into that space as well.

[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see.

[SPEAKER_00]: And just a comment on what Mr. some figures was saying.

[SPEAKER_00]: was that was kind of what I thought was going to happen with Bethesda was that underneath Microsoft they were going to kind of rain them in a little bit and make them actually like look you can't just put out crap and and treat your people you know the way that you guys do

[SPEAKER_00]: So they kind of real them in a little bit.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's why we're hopefully going to see and get better products out of that studio.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I think in terms of that, that was a good thing for them and how they went about making, making other schools online.

[SPEAKER_00]: less buggy.

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe even there infrastructure.

[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

[SPEAKER_00]: They must have done something if it may be.

[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Daddy daddy Microsoft decided to put their heads and things because it used to be just Xbox, but so with that like I said, I think that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Microsoft put in so much money that now they have eyes on that division as opposed to separating to being the separate between Xbox and then Microsoft so like because I mean do they ask for a I mean they had they they've spent over a hundred billion dollars.

[SPEAKER_01]: So there's no way like the date that they would they have their opinions on what's going on, you know, so yeah, but anyways, would you say sorry, they're didn't mean to cross by from the games.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean put money makers on mobile

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's a whole different conversation on where it comes to that kind of thing in my opinion, because with mobile, like it's funny, because like I always have a whole different deal when it comes to mobile games.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't say I hate them, but it's like the the the machines works a lot different than what it is on the

[SPEAKER_01]: regular, you know, a regular console slash PC gaming, you know, so that's just crazy.

[SPEAKER_01]: The Azure special sauce gun, but fixing their game.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's funny Microsoft cloud services.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, well, anyways, that's cool, but yeah, but anyways, I guess it's a small victory.

[SPEAKER_01]: We can celebrate I guess I'm not I don't care at this point at seventy bucks, but

[SPEAKER_01]: But it's a thing, you know?

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, it's a, it's, they dropped it down the seventy, hopefully people will be more aware of the fight these fights of like saying this is not worth the eighty dollars.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you're willing to spend eighty dollars, you want to get eighty dollars worth of a game.

[SPEAKER_01]: Not nothing more and nothing less.

[SPEAKER_01]: So you could justify seventy because that's how a seventy is at right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: But like if it's, if they're going to just jack the price up to jack the price up, no, absolutely not.

[SPEAKER_01]: So good job on.

[SPEAKER_01]: on having them roll it back or people to roll it back.

[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, uh, Smitty, what are you bringing to the table?

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I had to talk about this.

[SPEAKER_00]: This one's so kind of a weird one.

[SPEAKER_00]: Earlier this week, uh, ten, four, seven games, the makers of split gate and split gate two.

[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, announced that they are going to be rolling back split gate two back into beta.

[SPEAKER_00]: The community has come out.

[SPEAKER_00]: They have voice their frustrations with the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: They said it feels very generic.

[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like they took what they did from the first game and like, you know, the things that made it unique and like kind of just put it into a generic feel of a pvp game and And there are issues with their micro-tracks transactions being a little too Just aggressive so they've come out they came out with a statement saying that they launched too early.

[SPEAKER_00]: You don't really see

[SPEAKER_00]: I've never I could just like the only thing I could think of is like a multi versus we're also near like we're gonna go ahead and close beta access off again like excuse me this game is

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know the community responded really well talked about how unique I never personally played it the talk about how unique the game was how fun it is and stuff like that um so to see something like this you know and and obviously and I think this is a very minor blip um but almost like a karma moment where there's a dude that here like a month ago uh it might have been summer game faster so I can't remember exactly what it was

[SPEAKER_00]: But he was wearing a Mika FPS grade again.

[SPEAKER_00]: People took it the wrong way and like, now, you know, I mean, people are clowning this dude because they're having to take it back in a beta.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's obviously got nothing to do with that.

[SPEAKER_00]: This actually, I think is a smart move on their part.

[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately for them, they are going to sustain layoffs due to this.

[SPEAKER_00]: And they're going to try to minimize those layoffs by shutting down the servers of split gate one.

[SPEAKER_00]: So they said that they're exploring options of doing a peer to peer connection or having like an offline mode for it or something, but to save on having to cut more people, they're going to shut down those servers.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know,

[SPEAKER_00]: It's weird clearly they should not have launched when they did.

[SPEAKER_00]: If it wasn't ready to go, they believed it was ready to go, but they needed to do more testing.

[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't listening clearly to feedback.

[SPEAKER_00]: They went into that mode that we see so many games of that genre try to do.

[SPEAKER_00]: They basically try to do what Fortnite does.

[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't work.

[SPEAKER_00]: Can Fortnite's already doing it.

[SPEAKER_00]: And what's good about this game, the uniqueness of the portals and the fun gunplay, you know, they kind of...

[SPEAKER_00]: didn't really do like they they kept that as a base, but then they didn't add anything to it.

[SPEAKER_00]: They just took that and put it into a generic FPS setting.

[SPEAKER_00]: I have not.

[SPEAKER_00]: The thing about this too is that even though it's going to be in beta, the beta is still open.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you can continue playing the game.

[SPEAKER_00]: You can go and download it, all that stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I hear it's a fun game.

[SPEAKER_00]: I hadn't really heard all this negative stuff until this came out and I saw

[SPEAKER_00]: They're reverting it back to beta.

[SPEAKER_00]: Is this game number one?

[SPEAKER_00]: Is this game out?

[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even realize the game was like officially out either.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was kind of weird.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't remember really seeing much marketing for it, which is kind of weird, especially if the games actually out.

[SPEAKER_01]: So well, it's like a one didn't get any marketing either.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a small company.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a small company.

[SPEAKER_00]: That is true.

[SPEAKER_00]: But like I felt like

[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, like, I remember like the rumblings of this coming up and I'm talking about, you know, oh, we're going to be doing a split gay two and all that stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: I just felt like there would be more hype behind it.

[SPEAKER_00]: especially with it officially being out and I didn't really get that and even even from like the content creator space I did see some like I saw some inferno people did some content about it and whatnot but like I don't know that correlated with the actual launch of the game would be my guess but

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_00]: I won't know what you guys think about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Or if you play this game, if you think it's a smart move, I appreciate the transparency and then be like, oh, we released too early.

[SPEAKER_00]: All my bad.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you want to go pop?

[SPEAKER_02]: I've never heard of a game going back to beta.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even think that was possible.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, has this, is this the first time in history that this has happened?

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm doing the asking.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to even objectify the thing that this is the very first time in this game.

[SPEAKER_01]: But I will say I've never heard of it either to be fair because like.

[SPEAKER_01]: like we've heard of like you know like what they do with multi versus multi versus was a beta when it first came out but it just they didn't really do a good job saying it was a beta but it was a beta so even multi versus didn't even do this so I don't even know what to say about it but

[SPEAKER_01]: I will say this, though, because the one way I could take a look at it, because I know this is the kind of game I would never play.

[SPEAKER_01]: I watched people play split gate the first split gate, and it looked like it was a really fun time with the portals and stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I was hoping to the second one was going to add to it, but I still have no frame of reference.

[SPEAKER_01]: So the best place to find the good frame of reference for this is the best and most trustworthy place

[SPEAKER_01]: the steam reviews.

[SPEAKER_01]: So let's go to the state reviews here for a minute.

[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll do it like like I said, I'll do one.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'll do one negative and I'll do one positive.

[SPEAKER_01]: So let's see what's like a fine.

[SPEAKER_01]: That'll find the good one.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, you know what, I'll start off with a negative one.

[SPEAKER_01]: I might have to start off with two because one of them is to actually pretty funny the way the way this guy totally went overboard.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he got an award for it too, which is funny.

[SPEAKER_01]: But the first one, this is from a guy named Mr. Weconu, and he's done nineteen under them as a count.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he says that split gate one is arguably one of my most favorite MP games of all time.

[SPEAKER_01]: This reimagining was has worse map design and skin design than any of the prior game infinitely more monetization.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's focus on the fun and wacky game modes.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then also goes and shoves unreaded, I'm sorry, unneeded hero classes into the mix.

[SPEAKER_01]: And now they're abandoning it just like they did to split gate one, which they're now shutting down without even offering a form of self-hosting or community browsers like games have done for decades, ridiculous incompetent.

[SPEAKER_01]: My heart is broken.

[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's actually coming fast very sad.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, really so but the second one to that

[SPEAKER_01]: Complete opposite, that's also negative, was each shit.

[SPEAKER_01]: First, you do little, oopsie, oopsie, I did a shitty walkie when caught overcharging from micro transactions.

[SPEAKER_01]: Then you bring over your shitty battle royale that fucking no one knows and ask for.

[SPEAKER_01]: And now you shut down the original game servers, go fuck yourselves ten, four, seven.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a positive?

[SPEAKER_01]: That is oh sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was that was the positive.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm just kidding.

[SPEAKER_01]: The positive.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, there we go.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, to be fair, this guy's a little long.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see if I get one that's actually, I'll do two just to be on the fair side.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, Ecliptic says, there's a lot of people complaining about nonsense in the reviews.

[SPEAKER_01]: The core, the core rena modes are fun and the BR mode is also a lot of fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: Movement is extremely smooth.

[SPEAKER_01]: Gunplay is very solid and the portals add for such a cool and unique way of think.

[SPEAKER_01]: a way of to flank enemy players.

[SPEAKER_01]: The game is easy to learn but quite hard to master.

[SPEAKER_01]: Even though I never played this game before, I will say you just pretty much describes what gate would.

[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you didn't really add anything additional to two in my opinion, so I don't know if that really helps.

[SPEAKER_01]: If it's in my own, my own opinion on the, for the positive, but

[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then another one, a little bit linked here, says he put a point six hours into split gate two and overall I enjoyed the experience.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's a solid shooter with with some exciting moments, but like many other games in the FPS genre, it didn't leave me itching to come back for more.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's not necessarily a knock on the game itself, but more of a reflection of how creatively boxed in the air arena shooter space has become.

[SPEAKER_01]: So he kind of goes into more of like the style in the movements, but he was pretty much comparing it to the saying that's what gate one is not much of a different a different take to it.

[SPEAKER_01]: So they're so I guess the the biggest gripe is that you're it's kind of like the gripe of Overwatch one Overwatch too.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like what are we buying a sequel for?

[SPEAKER_01]: At the point, you know, like so, but to say that to get it to beta, that's not a good.

[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

[SPEAKER_01]: Anyway, look at it, especially if it's a very niche community for split gate, that to me, it seems like it might be a DOA at that point.

[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know if it's DOA though, especially if they go back, because like what I'm hearing is, and again, people love split gate one, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: It was unique.

[SPEAKER_00]: It was different.

[SPEAKER_00]: They took those mechanics, but didn't really do anything different with them.

[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't increase or make it better date.

[SPEAKER_00]: They put it, they threw a battle royale into it, which is the cookie cutter

[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a way for us to try to make money time of deal.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then they have these crazy overpriced micro transactions, which is instantly going to turn somebody off, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: Not only that, but if you have micro transactions within a game that you've already purchased, I think you are shooting yourself in the foot out the gate.

[SPEAKER_00]: Because you're paying to have to pay to all that stuff.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a good look, especially within that space.

[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you're competing against a bunch of other really good free-to-play games.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're basically DOA if you try to come out and do that space.

[SPEAKER_00]: Unless you have something unique or something that's going to not only get people to play the game, but continue and keep coming back to play that game.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you can't just do that.

[SPEAKER_00]: They make that mistake all the time with online service games, right?

[SPEAKER_00]: They make a game, but they don't make it media enough to sustain the community and to be able to roll out.

[SPEAKER_00]: You got to have a whole roadmap of things because people want that, you know, you got to be able to trickle over.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the course of a year or whatever, different events, different things.

[SPEAKER_00]: Different reasons to keep people not only grinding your game, but to keep them coming back for new event or different things.

[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise your community is going to go and they're going to find other reasons to play other games or there's going to be new stuff in there.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's still the free to play games like that are always going to be solid and have their events and stuff going on.

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a very competitive market to be in.

[SPEAKER_00]: So

[SPEAKER_00]: to come out, again, they come out with that bold statement of, you know, we're gonna make FPS games great again.

[SPEAKER_00]: And then you go and put yourself into a box of everything else to every other FPS game is doing your, you kind of did it to yourself, buddy.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of did it to yourself.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's very true.

[SPEAKER_01]: But what's sad is that this is an indie game that decide it felt like you know what's it also feels like it feels like it lost its identity like like throughout throughout the way like because like I've talked to this developer a long time ago when split gate one came a long time ago.

[SPEAKER_01]: And he knew what he wanted out of that game.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then the portal thing, great idea, a different kinds of things.

[SPEAKER_01]: But then he added it with a lot of unnecessary stuff that most people were not even asking for in the first place.

[SPEAKER_01]: And now people are burning it back mixed with

[SPEAKER_01]: you're asking for more money aggressively with microtransactions and microtransactions is not a bad thing, but you gotta be fair with it.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's the, and that's the thing that I think that was missed on this, in this fact.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, like I don't know, when a game decides to say we're gonna go back to beta, I don't know how long this game is out to the public officially.

[SPEAKER_00]: it was had to have been at least a month and a half to two months.

[SPEAKER_00]: Jesus.

[SPEAKER_01]: So even if it's been out for that for a bit like that and then for them to say we're going to go back to beta doesn't give me the most like chance or the the most like you know biggest like

[SPEAKER_01]: Optimism that this game is going to be successful because first off you burned the bridge of the people of the people that were following and was was wanting to support you and you now came out June six so month and a half almost yeah, so yeah, so unless the people have a really short-term memory about it and then to come back now now you're going to be flagged with like this is the game that that came in and then just disappear again and

[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's a very back-to-bay, I guess.

[SPEAKER_00]: One of the biggest things that stuck out to me about those reviews that you read was the fact that I felt the same way about split gate one.

[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like the dev team just kind of abandoned that game and moved on to split gate two.

[SPEAKER_00]: And it felt weird.

[SPEAKER_00]: And I wouldn't sure how to community felt about it.

[SPEAKER_00]: themselves, but it did seem that way to me, like it almost felt like they abandoned the game and just for like, all right, now we're going to move on to this, but it's like, but you guys already have a great game, like what, like, I don't think there's a need for split gay two.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think you just build off with split gay one that everybody loves, like what?

[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't make sense to me.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I don't know man.

[SPEAKER_00]: This could be a ten four seven games issue two.

[SPEAKER_00]: I could be indicative because like you said, this at this point, this is now turning into a pattern with this with these guys.

[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, or I shouldn't take that, but with this team.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I, you know, I don't know where it's coming from, but

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you're split gay fan, like I think you're right, the question some of this and I, you know, ultimately I do feel that this is a good thing for the game because obviously they were not listening to the community and they went completely off the rails and lost like you said Davis lost their identity.

[SPEAKER_00]: along the way.

[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is an identity crisis for the game and that was their reasoning for going back in the beta because you're right.

[SPEAKER_00]: They have to pull it back because they've gotten way too far off course.

[SPEAKER_00]: Not only that, but they've done nothing to even, you know, feel that way because the fans are saying, look, guys, this game is not, it's the same thing.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's not there.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so get on them for listening.

[SPEAKER_00]: I suppose.

[SPEAKER_01]: I guess.

[SPEAKER_00]: How do you get so far off the markman at that to me is the story that says a lot more about what's going on behind the scenes than, you know, than what you see just popping on the game.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, exactly.

[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's funny because like seven figures were saying about a curable space program, too.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then I totally forgot about that game.

[SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly right about that.

[SPEAKER_01]: That was a buggy mess.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then like really, yeah, it was not the second one.

[SPEAKER_01]: The first one people loved it was real fun.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was a fun game.

[SPEAKER_01]: But then two was announced.

[SPEAKER_01]: People are hyped about it because they're thinking that they're going to be adding some more to it.

[SPEAKER_01]: But that thing was glitched was glitched.

[SPEAKER_01]: like, it was so many random things that were going off on it was insane.

[SPEAKER_01]: So that's never fixed it.

[SPEAKER_01]: They never went in and like, I think they tried, but it was it, but it was too late.

[SPEAKER_01]: It was too late.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, remember, like, when we're talking about, like, it's kind of, I hate to bring it back up, but thanks to pop, but because of mine's eye.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, he did it.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: We agreed to talk about it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: We agreed to talk about what it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is essentially what it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like what they're trying to do.

[SPEAKER_01]: They're like saying, hey, we're going to we're going to re-release the game.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, um, you, you, you, you, you made your bad man.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing you could do.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but that's not necessarily true.

[SPEAKER_00]: If we go back to looking at, uh, Namamsky, they showed that you can do it if you do it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but the maskey didn't say we're going to go back to beta or we're going to release it.

[SPEAKER_01]: They were straightforward.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's from the from the gates saying we're going to improve along the way, even though that's probably the still bad, but it's still the least.

[SPEAKER_00]: They said that was the fact that was a problem with that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they still, yeah, they still, they still were doing it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, essentially it's just

[SPEAKER_01]: like whatever at this point, but yeah, it's, man, it sucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: It sucks, man, but like, well, the best to splake it to hopefully they, they get something, they pull something out, but I will not be surprised.

[SPEAKER_00]: I hear it's fun.

[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to download it just to try it out because I hear it as fun game play and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I wouldn't mind checking it out, but I'm not, you

[SPEAKER_00]: You know, again, online things like that, like I started, you know, I haven't even played marbles in the grip.

[SPEAKER_00]: You could like, you know, people just start yelling at you and stuff to you and like it just becomes not fun for me.

[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like, ah, it gets to sweaty, but you know, I'll give it a shot and see how it is.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, we'll see.

[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're probably the best person to do it because I know I'm not touching that.

[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll go with it.

[SPEAKER_01]: All right, pop.

[SPEAKER_01]: Watch close this off.

[SPEAKER_01]: What you bring into the table.

[SPEAKER_02]: So Wu Chang will fall and feathers came out this week, and it did not come without its own issues.

[SPEAKER_02]: They recently released a game, had optimization issues, and then released a patch, but this patch did not come without.

[SPEAKER_02]: gifts they granted some additional freebies as an apology.

[SPEAKER_02]: But the biggest issue with this patch is that they patched a patch where the patch that got patched was they claimed to fix everything, but they didn't.

[SPEAKER_02]: But the most recent patch fixed what they claimed to fix in the previous patch.

[SPEAKER_02]: Some of the issues included performance issues, some bugs.

[SPEAKER_02]: And with they granted, I believe all players got the games of original soundtrack DLC as a as a form of apology.

[SPEAKER_02]: So some pre-order bonuses were granted as a as a gift if you had the game.

[SPEAKER_02]: They also had some issues where players who had pre-order the game did not receive the correct rewards upon playing the game, and that to my knowledge that has been fixed.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you are still struggling to claim your rewards, it said, I believe the dev said that you should log in again and claim them at the donation box located in the reverent temple.

[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, we're working on a more extensive patch in the next few days and advice players to reach out to customer support.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I want to know you guys thoughts on, you know, one point three apparently was the fix where they were like, oh, yeah, you know, we fixed everything.

[SPEAKER_02]: We believe that it works well.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then one point four, like we're sorry.

[SPEAKER_02]: We fixed stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: What are you guys talking about?

[SPEAKER_02]: We're okay with that.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to lie to you, and this is what I'm going to say right now.

[SPEAKER_01]: For the longest of time, I thought you were saying, Wu Tang.

[SPEAKER_01]: This whole time, I was like, I am nanteed.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's fall with feathers.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, I was saying, that's why I never heard of it.

[SPEAKER_02]: We know what you were listening to before the podcast.

[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to expose yourself.

[SPEAKER_02]: Share the fuss modified by this.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I corrected someone else like, oh, we would take.

[SPEAKER_01]: I legitimately, wholeheartedly say, thought, you were saying we would take this whole time.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then he said, so he corrected me after asking what the correction.

[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm serious.

[SPEAKER_01]: I am dead serious.

[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh, we'll take never heard of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because we'll take has video games.

[SPEAKER_01]: They do.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I just assume.

[SPEAKER_01]: And there's another one that that's coming out soon.

[SPEAKER_01]: So I just assumed that's what you were talking about.

[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, we'll take a plan game on the airport.

[SPEAKER_01]: My mistake.

[SPEAKER_01]: My mistake.

[SPEAKER_01]: I learned something today.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a better person before and now.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll change.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's the, I've seen to describe this the Guner.

[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna talk about that game review, but it is a soul's like game.

[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't look like a guner wouldn't be guner like I would say.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's because the character you play is is very pretty.

[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, I'm not a soul is like player at all.

[SPEAKER_01]: They all, I'm just like, man, who's the one that you played before the was it we will let the Chinese on move on very well.

[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: There's something else to I think, but yeah, you know, it's unfortunate.

[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, what were the gifts again?

[SPEAKER_02]: if you do not pre-order the game everyone got the soundtrack those who pre-ordered the game and we're having issues with their pre-order bonuses now have access to that as well so it looks like they got a couple of DLC freebies if you didn't pre-order and if you pre-ordered what you didn't get you should now have oh okay and really get anything if you pre-ordered like other than what you paid for

[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, pretty much.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that's kind of lame.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, some people logged on to think of their pre-water bonuses because that's how broken the game was.

[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, which is terrible, but they didn't really get any kind of like gift.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, especially the fact it's like, they pre-ordered like you think they'd get like something.

[SPEAKER_00]: Something like that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, like, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you for giving me what I paperwork and I get a little extra for the trouble.

[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what?

[SPEAKER_01]: How bad.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, if you got the standard edition, you would also get the soundtrack because I think the soundtrack was with the deluxe edition.

[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so let's see.

[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at what they give what they're giving it.

[SPEAKER_01]: What did you say, was he say, Wu Qing was got a, got a two point five on, on a, on a, on.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, okay.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and it's, the reviews are mostly negative.

[SPEAKER_01]: So once again, we're going to do this again with a software Wu, Wu Qing.

[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it is easier to find negative ones more than positives.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just do one.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll do one.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this guy, he said product refunded.

[SPEAKER_01]: So they said, what their new patch, they optimized me out of a full native mode.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy how deceitful this this lie is.

[SPEAKER_01]: I can't play the game to a full resolution anymore.

[SPEAKER_01]: Slider just looks like DLSS quality even at one hundred percent refund avoid this game at all cost.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's just go with one a little bit more.

[SPEAKER_01]: substance with the other stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, here we go.

[SPEAKER_01]: So here's one.

[SPEAKER_01]: This one says they should they should have delayed the game and not use the UE five engine to UE five engines unstable and and wonky go play stellar blade instead because of the the PC version is playable.

[SPEAKER_01]: Do not buy Wu Chang full price just wait until it goes on sale and wait for the game is fixed.

[SPEAKER_01]: I want to change my review when the game gets better.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right now the game is not in a good spot.

[SPEAKER_01]: I am worried for Phantom Blade Zero might end up having the same issues.

[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

[SPEAKER_01]: Is Phantom Blade Zero made by the same company by five oh five?

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think so.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's so weird because they just listed a bunch of different games, but different companies.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is my S game.

[SPEAKER_02]: What the hell is that?

[SPEAKER_02]: And if I recall that game is specifically being advertised for PlayStation, so.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know what that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he got it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because they were just like, go play stellar blade and said it was like, but that's not a soul's like game.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like what?

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go to my zero is also not a soul's like game they're advertising it as a as an action RPG so you know I don't have souls like attributes to it quite a bit of it actually so like I looked at it as a soul's like because of what you had to do for it, but like it's

[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird what's with seller blade, but that one I can understand.

[SPEAKER_01]: Phantom Blade Zero is a game that's not even out yet, so I don't know what like I understand his concerns of it, but why would you worry about that when it's a different studio, different console and all that different stuff to be.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it is going to get released on PC at some point, but it's only been advertised on PlayStation stuff, so I don't know where their concern is coming from.

[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and here's an optimistic here's an optimistic one to will a positive one.

[SPEAKER_01]: The game's optimization is horrendous.

[SPEAKER_01]: I had to use mods to fix the stuttering mess that is UE five.

[SPEAKER_01]: I persevered regardless and found the game to be solid souls like with some interesting mechanics.

[SPEAKER_01]: All was well for the most part until Commander Honglaan.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe a character in the game.

[SPEAKER_01]: This is where we this is where my adventure and interest ended.

[SPEAKER_01]: If anyone remembers running into a wall in Liza P with the pre nerf arc bitch of Bishop Andreas Bosch, which I know exactly.

[SPEAKER_01]: He's talking about welcome to the new pain.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so

[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that that's a positive review is kind of worried.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how bad the optimization is, and that's usually one of the biggest things when it comes to these kinds of deals, when it comes to, well, is reaching only on PC or is it on console as well?

[SPEAKER_02]: Some console as well.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if the optimization, well actually no, the optimization issue is mainly with PC.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think any, yeah.

[SPEAKER_01]: The ports, yeah, the ports on the, like console versions usually work better because the limitations are built around, whatever the game is built around, you know, the least, the least, it's, they're all the same.

[SPEAKER_01]: As opposed to PC, everyone has a different kind of PC in some sort of way.

[SPEAKER_01]: So like, so it's, so usually ports to PC is very, fifty, fifty if it's good or if it's bad.

[SPEAKER_01]: However, like,

[SPEAKER_01]: For a game's optimizations and stuff and like like the biggest issues and seems like most of these people are playing this on this on the PC more than they do on console.

[SPEAKER_01]: They add something something's up.

[SPEAKER_01]: But then the incentive or the quote unquote apology that they're doing to their fan base doesn't seem very sincere especially what what what what's but he was saying because they don't feel like you're getting anything out of all this with this disturbances especially especially especially when you're paying how much is this game fifty bucks I'm assuming

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, fifty bucks.

[SPEAKER_01]: So it's fifty dollars than the Deluxe is sixty.

[SPEAKER_01]: Especially when you're paying straight up money and then you're not able to play it.

[SPEAKER_01]: That would irritate the hell out of me.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what they also need to do with reviews and putting in information.

[SPEAKER_02]: People just need to start submitting their specs because the recommended specs for this is I don't I don't recall what it is for the AMD graphics cards, but for Nvidia, you need at least a twenty-seven.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really so.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: People are forgetting that the games, like, especially with UE five that you got to have the little beef here and what we've been able to in the past.

[SPEAKER_00]: So you got to, you know, look at that as well.

[SPEAKER_01]: But what sucks is that they say, I mean, I'm going to be real.

[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if a lot of people do look at specs to that.

[SPEAKER_01]: Look at specs at the game itself.

[SPEAKER_01]: They just wanted to try to play the game.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's sometimes out to the business people.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the way and where they put the specs and the information and stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: It like I think it I think it's like a foot it feels like a footnote overalls and you know and pop you already know people are like to read I always grow down and read I had to on my old PC.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have to do it now because I have nothing to worry about until like the next two generations of artists cards comes out I don't have to look like even by CPU I have an I did I'm fifty xdd

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm good, but as someone who had to look, people need to start looking at system requirements, your PC will thank you.

[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, but I bet I bet just a little bit of both though because like I understand that I could understand that there is those people that don't look, but if the consensus is like do this is twenty twenty four thousand reviews.

[SPEAKER_01]: And the consensus is mostly negative that means there's a problem.

[SPEAKER_01]: There's literally an issue with the game itself.

[SPEAKER_01]: So, but like it's

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's it's it's sad.

[SPEAKER_01]: It's sad that that's what they think of that that that's where people are wanting just people need to just I don't even know what to say anymore like when it comes to developing with games and stuff, you know, because right now it just it's so like it's now tail as old as time when something like comes out like this game that was supposed to look really nice and optimizes up like it's fun, but really in reality, it's shit.

[SPEAKER_01]: Like we hear that more often than not, and it's like, and it doesn't feel like it's going to change any time soon.

[SPEAKER_01]: That's what makes it really aggravating.

[SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, we all lived during the times when it was like, you know, the, you know, the console wars and the PS two, PS, you know, those, those kind of transitions when you got the game, you got the whole game, and that's it, you know?

[SPEAKER_01]: But like, it just like that is not thrown out the window.

[SPEAKER_01]: Now I just feel like the process of building these kind of games and stuff, and then now seeing these expectations.

[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have to wait for a day one patch or the patch itself.

[SPEAKER_01]: doesn't fix whatever the issues the constant issues are and stuff and then like in this case the patch says that it fixes the issue but it didn't fix the issue the next patch fixes the issue that it was supposed to be fixed is uh is is is is just extreme and it makes it makes you just not want to deal with it and that's that's what's so that's what that's what's really unfortunate to me um yeah but anyways are you gonna play this game though but that's it you go play this game

[SPEAKER_02]: If it's the long game pass, I plan to I have to figure out if there's spiders in it or not because they like that's all those in the games.

[SPEAKER_02]: I need to see if they are tolerable or if it's just a complete note for me.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let's game definitely had spiders.

[SPEAKER_01]: I may not have seen it, but I've seen video of it.

[SPEAKER_01]: This game was like a game without spiders.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's actually like looked it up.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to like, oh darn.

[SPEAKER_02]: If you, you know.

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, definitely not.

[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, but anyways, but they will see, but anyways, all these patches glitches and

[SPEAKER_01]: retellings and stuff.

[SPEAKER_01]: Interesting week of all of this.

[SPEAKER_01]: So folks, thank you for listening to episode number two, seventy three of the CFG Gamecast.

[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for being a part of the conversation as always.

[SPEAKER_01]: We will be back again.

[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, we will not be back again next week.

[SPEAKER_01]: We've gone a spending and I are going to be traveling to Eva, twenty twenty five in Las Vegas, so we will not have an episode next week, but we will have one definitely the week after.

[SPEAKER_01]: I hope to have a video, make a video made for our shenanigans that are there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So once again, this is Davis Pop and Smitty signing out, y'all.

[SPEAKER_01]: Take it easy.

[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

[SPEAKER_01]: All righty.

[SPEAKER_01]: Done.

[SPEAKER_01]: Boom.

[SPEAKER_01]: Let me stop.