CFG Game Cast 274: Our EVO 2025, What an event
Download MP3[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the CFG Gamecast episode number two, seventy four a weekly podcast career by gamers and streamers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I am Mr. CFG Games himself, David Screena with me today.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got the five star general of the Eddie Bitty, Smitty Committee.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got Smitty in the third seat.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on my dude?
[SPEAKER_00]: I've been living my best battlefield six life.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been fantastic.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, been playing that beta.
[SPEAKER_02]: Had some some bumpy technical issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if feels due to when I was streaming and playing.
[SPEAKER_02]: There were sometimes I had issues.
[SPEAKER_02]: When I'm playing offline though, or not streaming, I had no issues at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm enjoying that.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's been really good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously we got done.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're we're recovering still a little bit from Evo last weekend.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to get down and talk about that.
[SPEAKER_02]: But that was awesome.
[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's been it's been
[SPEAKER_02]: busy, uh, and and just been grinding it, you know, and, and I haven't, I don't know, I really got a lot of games in, uh, this week, other than battlefield six, snap, uh, I'll tell you about the shenanigans that happen with that, like I'll turn it.
[SPEAKER_02]: made it in as a player, and then I got booted from the tournament because I didn't check in, but I checked in as an alternate to like, I don't know what happened.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was in for a second, y'all.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was in for like a moment.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: I saw King of Canada was in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: We know our friend Schnerp was in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Tucker was in it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then of course, our buddy friend of the show, Poppy Hendrix was in it as well.
[SPEAKER_02]: He got so close.
[SPEAKER_02]: to to qualifying for worlds automatically.
[SPEAKER_02]: He ended up going forward to yesterday, but again, another strong show in my hand.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe you'll be playing an air, air-shem deck as what he was rocking.
[SPEAKER_02]: So her there's a lot of C-two decks out there, which is three bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been made worse with these with these freaking first contact cards.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not good.
[SPEAKER_02]: Not good at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Not good at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what here's with the most of the decks are for that for that deck it would really irritate me is that how many C two versions are there or see up to see there's like they're at C four or so yeah renditions of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: So repo is that good of a card.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you and then if you have the good supports.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, there's one tech card that just disposes of that real quickly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah, what is that?
[SPEAKER_02]: He's an uncle Ben.
[SPEAKER_02]: I was just Uncle Brad Guardian.
[SPEAKER_02]: Brad Guardian gets rid of, uh, well, Red Guardian and and Chantris and Chantris is, it's more of a guarantee.
[SPEAKER_02]: But again, cerebral comes in at, uh, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Three zero.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you throw Red Guardian in there, he's going to hit it unless there's something that's in a negative.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's a rebrodeck of a, uh, a Mr. Lake is there in the Mr. negative in this a rebrodeck, usually.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: I never looked on.
[SPEAKER_00]: Looks like it would be a good a good good car to have for since it's not really zero.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, because it wouldn't really buff anything.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_02]: He would only buff the highest cost or the highest card.
[SPEAKER_02]: The whole goal with it is for all the cards around it to be the same cost so they're all getting the same buff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then and then probably drop in like a either a spectrum or a freaking onslaught or something to buff that buff even more.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think is yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, wait a minute though, but I thought negative flips the the the the power card to the cost card is doesn't it?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but if they're not all the same cost and it's only gonna affect one card and that's gonna be your highest your highest power card.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, did they change that because there's always been that way?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: That would solve been my understanding is that it buffs your highest cost card so you want all the you all your cards to be the same power.
[SPEAKER_02]: So they all get the buff.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, you're getting kind of choppy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think something was happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: It should be okay now.
[SPEAKER_02]: What about you?
[SPEAKER_02]: I know you were out here.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was great seeing you.
[SPEAKER_02]: How was the travel back?
[SPEAKER_02]: How's the week been back home?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so glad I'm back home, but like at the same time, the year was funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like when when I was there this last time, like we barely saw each other.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: bad like we were just like I was on the move man there was so many things like like I had booked for just those those three days with so many people it was awesome they're gonna be wrong I love the uh... the amount of different kinds of groups the developers and those stuff I was talking to and then also the uh... the winners to evo twenty twenty five to all said access to talk to as well yeah and uh... yeah it was it was a it had a great time uh... but like i've just spent this week just trying to catch up on all the content like
[SPEAKER_00]: This week I know I'm a little bit I know I'm behind so hopefully I can get it all done by this week and then move on so we can get ready for packs Which is like coming up and literally what two weeks I believe so yeah, it's it's it's a wild time I would say and like I didn't get chance of messing Battlefield six Smithy well for what you're saying Smithy if it's like Battlefield three then I'm in I'll take it back, baby.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's back, baby
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's really so I'm really looking forward to it because like I've never got I've went out of battle field after battlefield four four was like
[SPEAKER_00]: was mediocre to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but three was the one that was like the best one of the peak.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: I pee was the three was the peak definitely.
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you could destroy virtually everything in this in six is what they claimed to be, but it's weird because I've we've heard it so many times about a feel that you can that the environment damage is literally endless and like it's still, but it's does it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not executed right or very right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you remember a baffle twenty forty two with the with the missile silo and stuff is no I did not play but I didn't play twenty forty two at all.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh you didn't you all you missed it okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't miss it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I dodged it.
[SPEAKER_02]: That was intentional my friend.
[SPEAKER_00]: He did with that dog.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I said.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even going to bother.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even going to bother from what I'd seen and like I've done the future warfare in in the blocks and I hated and I decided that that's not what I want.
[SPEAKER_02]: And when I was like, when they were talking about that, not only that, but just how they handled the whole PR, it reaped of the blizzard.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't you have phones?
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll just like these guys are so toned up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And clearly that's it was.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't even bother.
[SPEAKER_02]: Didn't even bother.
[SPEAKER_02]: That I didn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was pretty on PS plus right now thought about maybe just checking it out and I was like, nah, why bother?
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need even I don't need to get to sour taste.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even going to stop that even in a soli myself.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not necessary, dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: I already got a couple of battlefield six.
[SPEAKER_02]: Love it.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, why would I even possibly look to see what twenty forty two is about?
[SPEAKER_02]: It's only going to piss me off.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is true.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is true.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're not wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of going to go back.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like when you found something that was actually what you were looking for.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like why would you want to settle for less.
[SPEAKER_00]: I totally understand.
[SPEAKER_00]: But like, so are you, so are you definitely picking it up when it comes out?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I'm not.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, here's the thing with that and like this discuss for Call of Duty in a lot of games nowadays like I just, you know,
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like I go in with the best intentions and thinking that I'm gonna play this and, and eat it up.
[SPEAKER_02]: But really, I'm gonna play it for a little bit.
[SPEAKER_02]: Everyone's gonna get super good.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna get bored of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna move on.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably the likely trajectory of it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, do I need to spend my money on this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Not really.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this game is more like a, it's a, it's a, it's a bedroom though.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like how many people, could you play at the same time as the sixty four V sixty four?
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you can't play it like what you could play it for like Call of Duty or.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's very different.
[SPEAKER_02]: Don't get me wrong.
[SPEAKER_02]: It ticked me a minute to even.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I've always been a track.
[SPEAKER_02]: I've always been trash at the battlefields.
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm more trash at the battlefields than I am Call of Duty.
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but I settled down and I was able to do things.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, it's a game.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's more of a
[SPEAKER_02]: Simulation style then then arcade style and that's my appreciation for battlefield it feels and like not only that but like the sound design of it alone and we're in beta right now like dude you feel like you're in freaking war man like and then obviously to a very mild degree but I imagine being in war and like you know you're wearing your cans or whatever dude like it's pretty hardcore man like like they do like it's like and things are blowing up building could possibly fall on you like
[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is great.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's yeah, it's very very interesting how that's how this is going to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on the fence too, but I don't know if I play with people.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a really that'd be a really cool communal game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: It says speed is getting smaller.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I know why hold up.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, what?
[SPEAKER_00]: No, your screen went, like, shrunk for some odd reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: I got a big.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I, oh, weird.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually an effect.
[SPEAKER_02]: When this, this one gives me a word.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, how far are you?
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, I can't speak.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really become a character from grounded.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: I know you all don't want to talk about just Battlefield six on today's episode so let's go through the normal rig and roll that we like to do each and every episode so each of us chooses a topic of discussion in the world of video games the topic would or could be a game itself or something that happened in the gaming industry
[SPEAKER_00]: We do not want to talk about it amongst ourselves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We will talk with you and go from there.
[SPEAKER_00]: So
[SPEAKER_00]: As you know, like we were just saying early at the beginning of the show, Smithy and I went to Evo, twenty, twenty, five.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is a lot that this event has, I mean, this event has come so long from what it used to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, it is, it has been like, it is a night and day difference.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is my first time back at Evo in about, I want to say, six, five or six years.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I haven't even, like, this is, now, correct me for a long, Smithy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Is this the second year that it's at, it's been at this venue, the West Wing?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, at the West Hall at the Convention Center.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so like I wasn't there when they when they first came last year, but this year, I still feel like because I did see the videos that that's midi and likes did last year, covering it, uh, uh, uh, the venue last year.
[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like they upgraded from just that year just in the years time because like the the arcade museum was like a little booth area in itself and everything and how they really good set up and stand up and then they also had an art museum.
[SPEAKER_00]: of different kinds of things that you could that you can check out.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was surprised about how much more of a convention feeling that this event is as well as, you know, the tournament level, the tournament level is.
[SPEAKER_00]: But before we kind of get into it, I just wanted to kind of give updates of that what happened at EVO, twenty twenty five.
[SPEAKER_00]: So at EVO, there was as always there's always going to be the
[SPEAKER_00]: There's the tournament brackets for virtually every fighting game that's currently out as well as there's a there are a ton of side tournaments that that happened as well So the ones that you're really wanting to know is like as you know, it's gonna be three five or six three five or six champion for this is Menna RD who plays Blanca Dude is unstoppable right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: He has won Evo Japan twice
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he's won and now he's won Evo lost baggage for the first time and now he's on his way to France.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's trying to get Evo France.
[SPEAKER_00]: So if he gets Evo France, he's gone through he would he would have won every Evo in one year in the same year.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's and that's that's that's an amazing fee.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would say so that is a freaking awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: for Tekken eight, Arslan Ash won it again.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is his sixth time winning Evo in the Tekken game, which is even makes him more crazier.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's been the consistent champion for Tekken seven, two Tekken eight.
[SPEAKER_00]: So he's also sixth time champion for that, which was crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: The first ever fatal fury champion was Goichi from Japan.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's already, has he won an evil before?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember, but he's a really, he's really a very, very, really good player from Japan.
[SPEAKER_00]: But what was cool was guilty gear.
[SPEAKER_00]: And for some reason, I'm drawing a blank out who won that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Let me see.
[SPEAKER_00]: Give me a minute.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nice.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: Good.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, I was gonna say I'm looking at up to you.
[SPEAKER_00]: What's up?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I had like I had a chance to watch top eight for I'm totally spacing on the name of the game, but apparently it's from an anime.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's something night.
[SPEAKER_02]: Under night, yes, thank you.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I went in, Dallas, Dallas, Zilly Hands that I had that I wanted to read in.
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I did, we sat down to the load off and we're watching it.
[SPEAKER_02]: And man, I mean, the energy there was great, you know, lots of great competition and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I always have a great appreciation for Evo, for the community and just the competition as a whole.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I totally agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, these people like the way these people are playing these games.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing to see.
[SPEAKER_00]: To be honest with you, what got me into it, it made me want to go to local, I went to a local here in Dallas here to see the FGC community in Dallas.
[SPEAKER_00]: And it was really cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just playing casuals.
[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't do a tournament because I haven't played, I haven't played Street Fighter VI in like seven, seven, eight months.
[SPEAKER_00]: I knew I wasn't ready for it, but it's inspired me to actually kind of pick it up casually and see how could I get back into it again.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see how that's going to go in the future.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, but for guilty gear, guilty gear was K-shoe Dammu, I believe.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, K-shoe, what Dammu?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy is really cool though though.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will say he plays Johnny and guilty gear and what but like he is so like chill like it is it is unbelievable.
[SPEAKER_00]: This guy's also not sponsored.
[SPEAKER_00]: He literally came out of nowhere at CEO earlier the the Matt the the big attorney before and just came came up one CEO two months later now just one evil and crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but second place, though, dude, I was rooting for was Red Ditto because he's placed the character I play, Ram with all.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that guy, super young, super talented, I'm looking forward to seeing where he's going to go next year and stuff, or in the future for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Grand Blue Fancy versus Rising Koji Koko, one that from Team Beatrix, Marvel Cap II.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have a love hate relationship in Marvel Capcom too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Have you, did you ever play it?
[SPEAKER_02]: I did not play it, but my understanding of it is basically there's a few meta characters and it basically everybody plays the same.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a basically mirror matches.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's basically my thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because like I'm looking at the right now.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I will die on this hill on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm not saying Marvel Cap two isn't a good game.
[SPEAKER_00]: It is a good game.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a great game.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a fun, fun historical game.
[SPEAKER_00]: However, you got like, here's the top.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, here's in the top eight.
[SPEAKER_00]: So the number one, who won it all the way was chaos.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
[SPEAKER_00]: His team was Sentinel Storm and Cyclops.
[SPEAKER_00]: Number two was Vigga.
[SPEAKER_00]: His team was Magneto, Storm, and Siloc.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you got served bot, Magneto, Storm, and Siloc.
[SPEAKER_00]: Combo, Fiend, Sentinel, Magneto, Iron Man.
[SPEAKER_00]: I had a little variety.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Sentinel, Strider, Dr. Doom.
[SPEAKER_00]: That is probably the most variety I have seen throughout the time.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then G concepts, Magneto, Storm, Siloc.
[SPEAKER_00]: Telly, Storm, Siloc, Magneto.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm just saying that that's the thing that drives me insane is that this game like is has fifty six characters and it's like
[SPEAKER_00]: So one then the rule book said you know what you guys use these ten people out of the fifty six.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's wild.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm no shade on Marvel, but like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't like Marvel Hipl-MVC too, I play.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do not because it's all the same.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's always mere matches.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, so then under night in birth to defiant one the under night in birth.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I've never given that game a chance.
[SPEAKER_02]: You said it was really cool dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: He was really beat big black or Yeah, you're right big black big black.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's great.
[SPEAKER_02]: Just a little time that I was in there just getting the vignettes of the players and then seeing them, you know, I mean, it was really cool to get into it and you know, I get it.
[SPEAKER_02]: So it also made me want to check out because I believe that's also an anime.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think or at least a manga.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they made an anime for it, but if they did, that wouldn't be nice.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I think you're right.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it may just be a manga, but I mean, I was like, dude, it's definitely, you know, made me kind of want to check it out for sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So definitely, I will say this though, to evo's like presentation.
[SPEAKER_00]: was like freaking top notch dude like like every like the the television screen the monitor screens the the like the you know like you said in the grand stage how to show the people's been vignettes and stuff like the lower tharts all that information really really good really it was it was definitely top notch from the most out from the last time I remember going going to see it was it was an incredible experience I will definitely say
[SPEAKER_00]: to go to go there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess the only unfortunate side was, I mean, they had to do it.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no other way they couldn't, especially to avoid what happened last year was to, they had to charge tickets to get in to the venue this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: It did.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you congest it quite substantially?
[SPEAKER_00]: I imagine.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it felt it was actually very easy to just walk in, go to your place and then just go and sit down and stuff, but sometimes if you leave, then it's like you're taking the chance of someone taking your spot, but you know that you can come back and then it came with like some wristbands and wristbands.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so there's no confusion at all whatsoever to get it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But the place I was actually really congested was like so Maximilian dude was doing a live stream of of the event on the show floor on the third day So like when the finals were happening so him and he had to couch and then all this stuff was going down because the finals matches I will have to say for most of these most of these games that they were doing were going down to the wire there were resets There were so many different things that was going that was happening.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what happened in that
[SPEAKER_00]: and other night was it like did he win all the way like straight or did he I didn't I didn't watch I believe he what it was chaos at one.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, no, the fine.
[SPEAKER_02]: Define.
[SPEAKER_02]: Define.
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe he won straight up.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think he had any losses in top eight.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, okay, okay, but like but like tech and tech and they had to run the back.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, uh, uh, fatal fury.
[SPEAKER_00]: They had to run it back and uh, I believe one more.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, oh, yeah, guilty gear, guilty gear.
[SPEAKER_00]: They had to run it back.
[SPEAKER_00]: There was no upsets unfortunately, but it was, but it was, they were, it was really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was really good.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then, like, it was, it was really fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the on the side notes, so to all the stuff that was happening during the events, like there were so many boots, like I got a chance to mess with Marvel tocon battle.
[SPEAKER_00]: Which was, yeah, that's going to be a great.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be a good get in my opinion.
[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, I was only was able to play fifteen minutes of it, which really kind of got to be like, oh, man, I need to more like more time down and break it down and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: But then we know that there's going to be a closed beta that's going to be coming on PlayStation in September.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe the beginning of September.
[SPEAKER_00]: So people are going to look forward to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you have to sign.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how to sign up for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I do go to the PlayStation store and then put it on your wish list.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you sign up.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so looking yeah, yeah, looking forward to that.
[SPEAKER_00]: String fighter is some of the, and then there was a lot of different announcements that that was going on.
[SPEAKER_00]: String fighter six finally.
[SPEAKER_00]: are bringing costumes out after two years, they're finally bringing costumes out for the characters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so yeah, I know if that's what I said.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what everyone is.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, what really?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it took them that long to be like, okay, we're going to make outfit alternate outfits for other characters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's summer, so it's all swim, swimwear, outfits and stuff.
[SPEAKER_00]: So to the people that you would assume that they would get swimwear, so like, like, Tammy, Tammy, Chunlee, Kimberly, Alex, not Alex.
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I forgot his name.
[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot his name.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, actual, I don't know the dude on the dude from the cover of the of the game, I can't remember his name.
[SPEAKER_00]: Jamie and them.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm talking about
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and yeah, so that was so that was some good news then they also show the sneak peek of C Viper who's the next DLC character that's coming and was in shows like freaking like gameplay of like freaking a Sagaat man Sagaat
[SPEAKER_00]: So God's gonna be a beast, I will say.
[SPEAKER_00]: He just looked like a beast, dude.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that looked really cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: Tekken eight was also and also showed some stuff out over there.
[SPEAKER_00]: Had a really cool boot, Smithy was, Smithy was having some fun with Anna and.
[SPEAKER_00]: in the image of it there.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was actually pretty funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, so they announced that the tech and eight, they just revealed the next character is going to be armor king who looks like a antagonist or like a bad guy or what's called a heal in the wrestling terms.
[SPEAKER_00]: Looks like looks pretty, looks really cool, but I've kind of over
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be on the soap box, but here's a semi soap box.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of over, like, the DLC, for DLC characters to come into games, let little fighting games, to be characters that have already been well established is getting a little old to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that drives me insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like sometimes, like I understand that you want to get money and I understand that it's a giant risk to put all your efforts on new characters.
[SPEAKER_00]: you can but to say that this whole season is like so far until the very last character is now a is now the new character has just been characters from either the past or from or the picture that we're DLC characters from seven is insane is ridiculous because like I mean
[SPEAKER_00]: Just I was just like why do we we're getting Lydia again.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Lydia has been to was DLC twice in seven and eight and you also have yeah now you have ended you have Anna Anna has been the character in Tekken since Tekken two and armor from the Jemba basically yeah
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and an armored king is the same way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Armor king came was was from armor was from the original tech.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you got four characters and on top of that you're paying a ton.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not cheap to buy these at the L.C.
[SPEAKER_00]: These these these seats.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're paying fifty dollars for the for these characters.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're waiting for the dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, like, let me take a look.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's already a new game for these characters every.
[SPEAKER_00]: It keeps us keeping some on every year.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's fifty dollars a year.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, let me go to places.com.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like, but then now you get now the now out of all that, you're waiting the the new character that you've been waiting for.
[SPEAKER_00]: You had to wait eight months to get this new person.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's from Thailand.
[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot her name.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, I'll look her up in the video.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so she did.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's one of my biggest issues with fighting games.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I don't like their model at all.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like that's kind of where I've stayed away from it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Can I, you know, again, to me, it feels like, you know, paywalling or pay to play.
[SPEAKER_02]: It feels like pay to play.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, literally is pay to play.
[SPEAKER_02]: You have to pay to play the character.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that's that's bullshit.
[SPEAKER_02]: But to be fair to make a part of the game.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then always build that way.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I have to be that way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, then let's try to hear that model.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I totally agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so here it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: So tech and eight.
[SPEAKER_00]: was, uh, Tekken Aates, uh, uh, DLC was, for season one was three characters, Eddie Gordo, Heyachi and, uh, Lydia.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Eddie Gordo was from three, he, Ochi was the first bad guy from Tekken One and you have Lydia that was that came from Tekken Seven.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then sees that right now cost thirty four ninety nine just for that for the season one for those three characters.
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's you I didn't know it's worse than for tech and but tech and has more is more expensive than than street fighter.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you got easy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the way way maybe I'm not looking at this right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, pay for them graphics.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know what we're gonna take, we're gonna take some of that money out that we have two hours for them graphics.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's exactly what it is.
[SPEAKER_00]: You think these graphics are free?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're gonna read.
[SPEAKER_02]: No, I just cost more than Streetfire Six.
[SPEAKER_02]: Have you looked into two?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's funny.
[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay, so Anna Williams fought to wrong.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Anna Williams from to, for tech into, I'm a king from tech into Fockerom, but from tech at seven, but Spockerom has only been DLC released.
[SPEAKER_00]: So twice.
[SPEAKER_02]: They had paid same character like three times.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have, and you have Mary, Mary Zoe, that's a brand new character coming out.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you're, yeah, I'll do what to say.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Plus, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So plus with two stages, forty bucks.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, people going to have a look at, people are going to buy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I hate it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they're going to have a look and it will continue to buy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: you know what though like I said that's like I would feel better if they like you know what I would be fine if they have past people mixed with new but they are putting most of their focus on just the pet like of everyone out like that that I mean the tickets a tech and roster is huge already as it is but to like to say that their focuses are are to to sell is to read
[SPEAKER_00]: repackaged their old characters is just so annoying.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would mind seeing like out of the four out of the three people that they came back when mine one or two of them come
[SPEAKER_00]: But one or two of them coming back, and then maybe having two DLC sprinkled, maybe even a guest character again, like live, like I did before.
[SPEAKER_00]: But Jesus, man, it is so frustrating to see street fires the same way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Street fires six is a second, a third season are all characters from Street Fighter except for Ingrid.
[SPEAKER_00]: Ingrid is technically a Streetfire character because she was in Streetfire Alpha three plus or the Streetfire Alpha three upper I believe but it's been a long time ago for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like I said she has a pat.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no, no.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a, that was a, that was a, that was a time and Alpha was doing drugs.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was a, yeah, yeah, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Very sideways.
[SPEAKER_00]: Street Fighter Tic-Tic-To.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a, it was a, it was a port that was on the Game Boy Advance back in the day.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what that's what you're looking at.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: To wrap with the upper, but that wasn't the first one that she was introduced in.
[SPEAKER_00]: She was in a game called Capcom Coliseum or fighting, fighting history or something.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so she really wasn't
[SPEAKER_00]: meant for Street Fighter originally.
[SPEAKER_00]: There were stories that they were trying to follow make her like the main storyline, but it all felt there.
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, but like
[SPEAKER_00]: Alex Alex is now being is now DLC two years in a row when she's when he came from three is.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Then you also got like I'm glad that see Viper's coming back and I think Z fiber would be the perfect DLC character coming back because we have a scene or since four so so so so so having her her come in awesome.
[SPEAKER_00]: So got once again been a DLC character since since since
[SPEAKER_00]: was a DLC character in five and now in the DLC character in six.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just like, what do y'all do in guys?
[SPEAKER_00]: Seriously.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it just makes you ring and ring in the same wall.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's over.
[SPEAKER_00]: Essentially.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's like y'all worst the man at this point.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like we're not even like we're just feeding you the same stuff we've already fed you.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: Right.
[SPEAKER_02]: And you just keep paying us the same amount.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's really bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's really it's really frustrating, but anyways, yeah, and it's so boxed down.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sorry.
[SPEAKER_00]: I was supposed to be a small so clocked, but it became a big one.
[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways,
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so virtual fighter five revo was announced going to be cross play on switched switch switch to PlayStation five Xbox and steam coming very, very soon as well as they showed this peak of retrofiber six, which looks amazing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I will cannot wait to see that see see that in play that's going to be showing more information that Tokyo game show this year.
[SPEAKER_00]: You'll to gear strive they did show the the the special character Lucy from cyberpunk twenty seventy seven from the anime is going to be yeah she's going to be yeah yes she's going to be coming in she's going to come in this month she's going to be in the logist so I'm going to not wait to check her out in that to see how she's going to play
[SPEAKER_00]: fatal fury against the other wolves didn't announce a dead show off can in fatal fury in the fatal fury form.
[SPEAKER_00]: He plays weird to me, but I'm not used to facing case styles of gameplay itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: But it was it was interesting to see.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was funny because like a mighty key didn't what did a let's get a long time ago about Ken being in Smash Bros.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no Terry Bogart being in Smash Bros.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they were calling him Ken with the hat.
[SPEAKER_00]: African hilarious, I love that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I love that schedule, such a great way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And as you know, they took on fighting souls made a announcement that they are showing that they announced they closed beta happening in September.
[SPEAKER_00]: September fit to the seventh and then put in to sign up, you just have to be able to have a place to account to get in.
[SPEAKER_00]: And invincible versus which was
[SPEAKER_00]: Oddly enough.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you get a chance to play this when you were there?
[SPEAKER_00]: I did not know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like oddly enough, I've been worried about it because it didn't look fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't look kind of plain.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: But when I was playing it, it didn't feel bad.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was actually not what people would play.
[SPEAKER_02]: As I actually, it looks pretty good.
[SPEAKER_02]: As I did, it looks fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was actually really fun to play.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then to learn and then know who you wanted in your trio.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I definitely enjoyed it.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was good.
[SPEAKER_00]: They announced the Omni Man.
[SPEAKER_00]: And they did show a trailer for Omni Man.
[SPEAKER_00]: You knew he was going to be in the game.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just the way that he was going to be.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was going to be cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: So Grand Blue Fantasy versus Rising Day announced wellness.
[SPEAKER_00]: Take it or leave it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who that is, but then we'll go with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That character is just for the Nounstees.
[SPEAKER_00]: He is officially out now.
[SPEAKER_00]: Already came on August fifth.
[SPEAKER_00]: Capcom fighting Coliseum to show the title update released.
[SPEAKER_00]: They added Ingrid into the Capcom fighting collection to an Alpha three because it turned it in because since she's like I said earlier, she was an Alpha three upper now.
[SPEAKER_00]: her and then that a character has been added into the roster, including some other, other like soundtracks and stuff like that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, but from the most part, like I said, Eva was a fun.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was an incredible thing.
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got to network with a lot of cool people.
[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely wanted to go again.
[SPEAKER_00]: Surprisingly, Eva's going to be even, it's going to be what?
[SPEAKER_00]: June next year, which is crazy.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is the earliest I've ever seen it.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's gonna be June.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's gonna be hot as balls out here.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was thinking it's gonna be June, it's gonna be June, twenty-third to the twenty-fifth.
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe twenty-third to the twenty-fifth.
[SPEAKER_00]: get ready man get ready to get to get your fans and stuff out because I definitely go to go again dude like it was a great it was a great experience I had a fun time fun time doing it so so go to come back so anyways I don't know we've been kind of when the little bit overboard but
[SPEAKER_00]: It's on.
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a meeting event.
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a meeting event.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, well, we're taking a time to talk about it, talk about our experience.
[SPEAKER_02]: And it as a whole.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see the able gamers area?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I did.
[SPEAKER_00]: That was like, there was an exhibition of two really good, like, street public players that were completely blind.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I wasn't right there with you.
[SPEAKER_00]: This is craziness.
[SPEAKER_00]: Were you with me?
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I was.
[SPEAKER_02]: We were having a conversation.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there you go.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I totally forgot.
[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because we were talking about like, or would you talk to the dude to, to hit up Lex, to let them let her let her know.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do remember.
[SPEAKER_00]: I do remember.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: They just, you just have to start.
[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to call me out all day.
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be like, Oh, you're right.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the question is perfect.
[SPEAKER_00]: Make me look bad.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: I love the fact that they're able to take that opportunity to bring people out there and do what they're doing.
[SPEAKER_02]: So I always support that.
[SPEAKER_02]: And able gamers is a great organization and just group in general.
[SPEAKER_02]: And obviously, I love some boo-do range or so.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we're working together.
[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's fantastic.
[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.
[SPEAKER_00]: I totally agree.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they like it's great.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's great to see.
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's cool.
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Smitty, what are you bringing to the table?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, just wanted to talk about if you guys haven't heard yet, or if you hadn't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nintendo is once again raising the prices on actually, what's crazy is that the reason a price is on their switch one, and those models and accessories.
[SPEAKER_02]: What they are claiming is due to the market aka tariffs.
[SPEAKER_02]: They need to raise the prices of this of the old hardware.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mind you, the new stuff isn't going up.
[SPEAKER_02]: And we'll talk about that here in a second.
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's just go down to prices here.
[SPEAKER_02]: So the original Nintendo Switch, which costs now, three hundred dollars will be three hundred and forty dollars.
[SPEAKER_02]: The Switch OLED D was three fifty will be four hundred dollars.
[SPEAKER_02]: How much is the Switch to?
[SPEAKER_00]: of base switch to with no game, but no Mario Kart is four hundred and fifty.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_02]: And then a switch light, two hundred dollars now, two thirty.
[SPEAKER_02]: The alarm mode is going from a hundred dollars to a hundred and ten dollars.
[SPEAKER_02]: What do I come up to?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, alarm mode too.
[SPEAKER_02]: They got the alarm.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, y'all.
[SPEAKER_02]: The alarm mode.
[SPEAKER_02]: Joy cons from eighty dollars to ninety dollars.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's
[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's stupid.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say it's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: Amibos going up like five bucks, uh, premium.
[SPEAKER_02]: Mebo's going up ten dollars from twenty dollars to thirty dollars.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know that me.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know the mebo's do.
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what's actually going to weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to take a small break on this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Why isn't Nintendo still dealing with the mebo's?
[SPEAKER_00]: Because like, you know, like, it's like, it's like Skyland.
[SPEAKER_00]: You remember Skylanders?
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: Nope.
[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.
[SPEAKER_00]: No.
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
[SPEAKER_00]: So you remember like, uh, when, uh, Spyro did the Skylanders thing with the little toys and stuff, uh, uh, uh, just exactly like what the mebo does.
[SPEAKER_00]: But they phased out because it was over saturated or the music, the music stuff like rock band, guitar hero, all that stuff because it got over saturated.
[SPEAKER_00]: There is no one out there.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe there's a small few.
[SPEAKER_02]: out there that's going to pay thirty or forty dollars on the stupid little toy like that like a freaking a me baby that's ridiculous I don't understand that uh... but you know more importantly though and i know there's talks to about the about the subscription going up as well i don't know i couldn't i looked around but i haven't been able to find anything concrete saying that it is going up
[SPEAKER_02]: But the fact that, so I remember two, it was earlier this year that they already did a price hike before the switch to came out in preparation for tariff.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you can, can you just keep using tariff?
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a reason to, like a tariff's bro.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
[SPEAKER_02]: Brian Market things.
[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me.
[SPEAKER_02]: Excuse me to know.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is literally like Lintano.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like has turned into like what they were always.
[SPEAKER_02]: I felt like kind of preached that they were different from the other companies and they do things differently and they, you know, this and that like they literally have given us an incremental
[SPEAKER_02]: uh, console, which saved never done.
[SPEAKER_02]: They've always innovated in some way or some, you know, nothing, nothing on this other than you can use the joycons as a mouse now.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's other things, but like, you know, it feels very incremental to me.
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't take any risks.
[SPEAKER_02]: They didn't, they didn't, you know, do anything that is typical of Nintendo.
[SPEAKER_02]: So like to see things like this, see like just reaffirms at
[SPEAKER_02]: They turned into corporal.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they were all ready, corporal, but like in a way they understood, they still, they didn't like fully embrace that corporal mentality.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like they have gone, they took, they went, we gotta go full in, we need money, y'all.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they have fully embraced it, I feel, and it almost feels like a shift in the cultural, the company's cultural beliefs.
[SPEAKER_02]: And how,
[SPEAKER_02]: they are received by us the general consumer.
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I'm wondering, what kind of move is this?
[SPEAKER_02]: Is this a move the force people to get the switch to?
[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's almost what it feels like to be.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they are making it stuff higher and closer to the pricing of the switch to get people to be like, well, I mean, I'm already almost there.
[SPEAKER_02]: I might as well just get a switch to if I'm going to get a switch.
[SPEAKER_02]: And they're just basically pricing out the switch one.
[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I can see it's it's weird.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can see Microsoft doing something like this if you're trying to try to if they had a new system and they're wanting to force people to try the new system.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can see myself easily doing this.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Nintendo is doing this subconsciously to say you need to buy more switch to because like, but it like
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like when you're talking about culture of Nintendo, yeah, culture of Nintendo has absolutely changed.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the president of Nintendo is a, well, is didn't have any kind of, like, wasn't someone that was grown up in the Nintendo, like, you know, ether, like, yeah, in a work on the background.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's a businessman.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's straight up business.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what he cares about is money.
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nintendo's, you know, one could argue Nintendo's always been that way, because Nintendo has never
[SPEAKER_00]: really the written to us always said it this is what it is this is how we do it if you don't like it too bad you know they've always been very strict on when it comes to this kind of deal but but but this year is just the most weirdest year I have ever seen for like the options that Nintendo has been giving everyone like with this it doesn't make any sense to say because like in I mean normal
[SPEAKER_00]: etiquette I'm when you say etiquette normal like projections of what you would do when you're wanting to phase out the system is you want to reduce the price to get rid of it because you don't want to yeah so you don't have any extra ones to go by but then to say that you're going to be jacking the price up
[SPEAKER_00]: even though y'all just released a brand new system two months ago even though that you that you're saying this is to project for tariffs and stuff keep in mind y'all people bought like these companies like wall bar target best buy has bought these systems months before tariffs was has been activated
[SPEAKER_00]: And then now you're saying, so you know what you just ended up doing?
[SPEAKER_00]: You ended up increasing your, your backfill, your back up like your, your own warehouse of people not buying those systems because there's no reason for it because they're going to be losing out because there's, because two reasons to, to expensive, even if you, even if they get that price, you know, the at cost price, they're not getting anything for it.
[SPEAKER_00]: There's no, there's no like incentive for them to even buy it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And two.
[SPEAKER_00]: You have a brand new system you have a gen two of the like you just released two months ago that everyone's gonna get and then you go to and then you're gonna tell a person a switch OLED which is the better switch is for it's only fifty dollars less than the then the two it doesn't make any lick a zero sense
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, at all whatsoever and then plus all of your the like the to say that the controller and then you know mind you too like there's some switch to controller accessories also went up in price due to this do there's this announcement too because isn't like the the switch room the switch controller the the
[SPEAKER_00]: the uh... the switch controller also went up to like a hundred dot it's a hundred dollars now it's a real controller went up to a hundred yeah it's ridiculous it's like like this is insane that you're saying that controls are causing more than the games now it's it's it's wild where there's any kind of drift i will explode
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, literally explode.
[SPEAKER_00]: I would literally, like, seriously, just be like, drive up to like the Nintendo.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, dude, now, like, forty or fifty dollars or sixty dollars, it's frustrating when it happens.
[SPEAKER_00]: But you're distancing out a bill for a controller.
[SPEAKER_00]: is is wild and like you don't pro controllers like third party controllers like the victrix or the or the Nikon revolutions and all that stuff to a hundred dollars you're hitting a closer to these march now for your regular base controller it's just like
[SPEAKER_00]: What the hell is going on?
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just like it doesn't make none of this is making any sense to me and none of this is Is it should not be should not be right in what in what in what way and in in fact companies like Walmart best and best buy are fighting back on this like right now They are they've actually clearance out their OLED a Walmart.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's glancing out their OLEDs and they dropped the price down from three hundred and fifty to three hundred because let's go
[SPEAKER_00]: Because here's my, and here's my, I mean, this is not what they're doing, but here's my thought.
[SPEAKER_00]: Here's my theory of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I mean, like Walmart has so much bulk because they have so many stores out through America that they have like a back like a, like a warehouse full of this stuff, like, uh, and they don't want to buy anymore because there's no reason for them to buy more because the switch to is out.
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're just wanting to say, so if you're going to jack the price up, no one's going to buy that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just going to be sitting inside the stores forever.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're just wanting to get rid of it.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so they're wanting, so they're just trying to, trying to entice people to be like, here, take this off our hands at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: And do that.
[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the mentality that they should be doing right now, because like the no one's going, no one's going to go buy and be like, unless you're a collector and for some reason you're wanting to get this and when you get the brand new one completely sealed,
[SPEAKER_00]: No one's going to just come by there and just say, I want to switch one.
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm only want to get the switch freaking to the one that's like in the switch.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's which one was such mint was a minimal system that doesn't even justify the cost of the other that you're trying to give it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't make any sense.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's goofy dude.
[SPEAKER_02]: It is so goofy.
[SPEAKER_02]: I remember going through and reading that and stuff.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, like, like, like, like, like, like, that doesn't make sense of like the older consoles don't go up in price.
[SPEAKER_02]: What, what, what?
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's insane.
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what was that conversation like?
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, boss.
[SPEAKER_02]: We got a lot of, like, just so it just, we need to get off our hands, you know, what's the plan here?
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the right is like price.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the price.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the price.
[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, this is two increases in the set.
[SPEAKER_02]: Raise the price and then put a little note that says we may need to increase in the future.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's what we've gotten to.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's alarming.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's alarming.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's now like this is like this is unforeseen territory and I really like, I don't, I mean, I don't, I'm not calling my breath on seeing the tennis going to re-neck on this on this kind of like what something, you know what, what Xbox did last week.
[SPEAKER_00]: They won't.
[SPEAKER_02]: They won't.
[SPEAKER_02]: Nintendo, if anything, they will double and triple down on you.
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you want to see some, we're going to triple the prices.
[SPEAKER_02]: What?
[SPEAKER_00]: You want to keep talking, I can keep going higher.
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, okay, uh, if you're hurting yourself, because I mean, you don't have to do that.
[SPEAKER_02]: Psycho.
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, and that's the thing is this is one of those moments where they need to feel that financial pinch from a move like this to make them question, because otherwise, if they if they get away with things like this, they're going to keep pushing further and further and further and further.
[SPEAKER_02]: like we have to stop it now and I think it will it does not make sense for anybody to go and pay these prices for a switch one if you do I will I will find you now
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, do I do much effort there are other ways to do and who's and I actually go out and buy a a brand new one at this point anyway, there's so many on the use market like this just makes zero sense to me right what what
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, terrorists are not like, and if that were the case, and why wouldn't it be targeted at the switch to?
[SPEAKER_02]: Why the switch to one?
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, the reason why this switch to is that they don't like that people, it would look bad for them to jack the price up only two months later.
[SPEAKER_00]: Of course.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but they don't, but they didn't think it would look bad for them to go back to the previous model and those prices left.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what they're trying to do with that.
[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't even make any like a sense.
[SPEAKER_00]: But this is the funny thing is the fact that yeah, well, you know, money, see the thing with money is that insert, Mr. Krabs, if it makes sense, then I can understand why you're going through that direction.
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know what I'm saying?
[SPEAKER_00]: But like because like I can understand if someone wanting to get like say, oh man, we're under selling this.
[SPEAKER_00]: Listen, we got to jack the price up so we could get even more profit.
[SPEAKER_00]: I can understand them justifying it.
[SPEAKER_00]: But dude, like, who's gonna spend ninety dollars on the duals on the, like on the controllers?
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I could see more so on a dual cent, that would feel like it's worth the money.
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we can see a con.
[SPEAKER_00]: Joy-cons, yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think we're going to make a rod.
[SPEAKER_00]: But too much effort again.
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't do far.
[SPEAKER_02]: I won't do far.
[SPEAKER_02]: I can't.
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's also the thing though, too.
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, Nintendo just has it has been having a very questionable like year of decision making.
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't say it because like, you know, like with the power of thing, which is still still in courts, the game key card.
[SPEAKER_00]: See, I feel like they're shooting themselves.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're in their own way.
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't even make any sense with Nintendo because like,
[SPEAKER_00]: The switch with the reason why the switch was successful besides that they had besides there's very strong first party support was those indie games and at the time when the game came out when the system came out that was really the only way that you can play portably those those indie games because steam deck was not out when when when switch when the switch one came out right
[SPEAKER_00]: So all those indie games that were in the the PlayStation store that was just sitting there and stuff was had a new venue and then in the switch gave them like yet there was that there was that time where there were just making money a lot of those and stuff
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so then and then so one of the venue, one of the ways to do it was cartridge based stuff, but but and then some people that that would then when you decide to say we're going to make one card, it's going to be a sixty four gig card.
[SPEAKER_00]: We're going the the top off for anyone that puts them there thing in this on on this card is going to be at least fifteen dollars on top of the of what they were going to be getting on their profit.
[SPEAKER_00]: is insane.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so you're kind of like shooting, you're kind of forcing Indies to go into some place that they are probably going to do in the first place to get the most amount of money from their investment.
[SPEAKER_00]: But also just totally ban them from another chance of other kind of gamers, like console gamers that like playing physical.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're dying on this hill for some reason.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why, or maybe because I don't know the must be some sort of science into the card itself.
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no freaking idea, but the fact that they decided to say we're going to give everyone drives a car, but the only car that we're going to provide is a Mercedes Benz.
[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone has to buy that Benz regardless.
[SPEAKER_00]: And even though you know
[SPEAKER_00]: not a lot of people will have that money.
[SPEAKER_00]: They're still going to, they're still going to force them to buy that freaking one hundred thousand dollar car.
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I feel like it's less, they have to distribute less money because it's less things.
[SPEAKER_02]: If they can handle the digital distribution, then they don't have to worry about a third party or in-house physical distribution.
[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like that's the way all of them are trying to go.
[SPEAKER_02]: They are trying to force digital.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's,
[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I feel like it's inevitable at this point in time because, you know, it's a cost them less not to have the physical.
[SPEAKER_02]: And what in the history of ever have they ever said, you know, we're gonna lose money on this if we continue doing this.
[SPEAKER_02]: We lose money on this.
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's continue doing it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're not gonna do it.
[SPEAKER_02]: They're gonna make it harder and harder and harder.
[SPEAKER_00]: But if it's a centralized, but if it's centralized, I can understand, but it usually isn't.
[SPEAKER_00]: If it's a third party that's going into their system, they're going to get some sort of cut anyways for the physical.
[SPEAKER_00]: So in a way, they get more money for that.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's like there is I feel like though they're like they see something that we don't yet and that's just what their long term plan is
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, we're being spoon fed bits of it here and there and here and little twinkling is here and there, but they've got the bigger picture.
[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like, you know, throughout the years, especially when we hit the pandemic and stuff like that, I feel like that just accelerated them pushing forward with this digital plan and it gave them, you know, a boost in being able to justify, hey, here's why we're doing this.
[SPEAKER_02]: We've already gone on this path.
[SPEAKER_02]: We're not stopping.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean I just don't trust whether a plan is I mean like it's funny because like
[SPEAKER_00]: I wait till, because you already know me, I'm gonna get physical as much as I possibly can, because like, I mean, even Mortal Kombat, the Mortal Kombat collection, which I really want, they're actually buying, they're putting their game on the card, but the difference is they're adding, they have to add ten dollars on top of that so they don't lose the margin cut that Nintendo put.
[SPEAKER_00]: for using it for doing it.
[SPEAKER_00]: So instead of everywhere else, it's fifty dollars.
[SPEAKER_00]: But on the switch to it's it's sixty.
[SPEAKER_01]: So.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's crazy.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's terrible.
[SPEAKER_02]: That's terrible.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we're at right now at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: You like you either need to make it.
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, dude, the like the demand is you need the people want physical.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the demand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because there is a demand.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because people are not buying the game key cards.
[SPEAKER_00]: So because they're not buying the game key cards, your partners, your third party developer partners are losing faith in your system.
[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason why.
[SPEAKER_00]: And so because they know that they want it.
[SPEAKER_00]: Because like for instance, I want to get found fancy tactics on the switch too.
[SPEAKER_00]: But I can't because I won't because I found out that the game key card.
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, so I'm going to get on PlayStation five at this point.
[SPEAKER_00]: So like the, uh, because I want to get, I want the physical game.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want any of the download BS.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just simple as that.
[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but the, uh, so you know that the man for physical is still there.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's still strong.
[SPEAKER_00]: You did this survey.
[SPEAKER_00]: They did, I don't know if you know about this, but they did this survey earlier this week.
[SPEAKER_00]: but there were so many people that were saying so that was so negative about the game key card that they shut that survey down in less than twenty four hours after it was released in tendos survey.
[SPEAKER_00]: So we know that that was that there is a there is a demand for it and you know people are willing to pay for it, but your but y'all are not like not wanting to do it or
[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to do that whole like literally the first thing that I got the switch to you up and whatnot.
[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't play because the cards were connected to my other to the other to you switches and I was like what?
[SPEAKER_02]: I had to basically nuke all the connections to establish this as a dominant connection.
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so dumb.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's dumb.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's so dumb.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and by the way, there is a fix around that, too, by the way.
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, because Wilbo showed it to me.
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, are you joking?
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you even need to use virtual cards or the system that they use?
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, there's also a way to get around that.
[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, Oh, you guys show me.
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys shoot me shoot me that info.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it's ridiculous.
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
[SPEAKER_00]: Just like, I don't know, like, what happened?
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like, I don't know.
[SPEAKER_00]: It just feels like the third, like somehow the third parties did them wrong in some sort of way.
[SPEAKER_00]: And then they decided to be like, OK, we're going to be pinpointing our hatred towards the people that were, that made me sort of a successful islander.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what happened.
[SPEAKER_00]: It feels targeted.
[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it feels like.
[SPEAKER_02]: This is because of you.
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, right?
[SPEAKER_00]: This is exactly like, oh my god.
[SPEAKER_00]: Anyways, we'll see how this is gonna go.
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