The CFG Game Cast

[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the CFT Gamecast episode number 280 a weekly podcast grab my game with the streamers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am Mr. See if she games himself, Davis Greene and what to do today.

[SPEAKER_02]: I got my two awesome co-hosts.

[SPEAKER_02]: I got the five star general of the 80.

[SPEAKER_02]: Bitty.

[SPEAKER_02]: Smitty committee.

[SPEAKER_02]: I got smitty in the third seat.

[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on my dude?

[SPEAKER_05]: It's been busy like you said a lot of video game news been going down.

[SPEAKER_05]: Scorp Kitty is still recovering.

[SPEAKER_05]: My world has been absolutely nuts.

[SPEAKER_05]: I got a promotion at work as well.

[SPEAKER_05]: So trying to juggle that, juggle the kids.

[SPEAKER_05]: We got the bitrics.

[SPEAKER_05]: uh... review came out again i've been loving uh... just playing with the controller and stuff like that so got some black ops seven and we got a stream in finally after a month of not streaming shame on me again you know i'm officially saying i just like i'm not gonna set up like i i i i'm just gonna stop saying that i am a streamer

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't even I don't know.

[SPEAKER_05]: I have I do things and stuff But I don't know that I consistently stream enough to be able to call myself a streamer anymore So, well, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_05]: We'll see what happened.

[SPEAKER_05]: Huh, not right now, but maybe maybe in the near future Yeah, we'll get them tried it.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is it I keep saying that I've been saying that for like five years now and it has not settled down if anything It's only ramped up

[SPEAKER_05]: That's true, you know, but again, but we are enjoying games.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's a, uh, oh my goodness.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm totally spacing on it.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's called timeless, uh, something dragon, something, uh, but I'm working on how many of you for it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm just spacing on the name.

[SPEAKER_00]: It's an RPG.

[SPEAKER_05]: Whatever it is, whatever it is, it's fantastic.

[SPEAKER_05]: I promise you, it's a real pain, it's like the time driving, that's cool, I like time travel like dragons

[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's fantastic.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's fantastic.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's fantastic.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's fantastic.

[SPEAKER_05]: There you go.

[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's fantastic.

[SPEAKER_05]: But how's it?

[SPEAKER_05]: Trying to get some whirlhand for in getting some black ops 7 in a little bit as well.

[SPEAKER_05]: Just stay in busy.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's been busy is is also good too.

[SPEAKER_05]: So things have been good and on my end.

[SPEAKER_05]: But again, there's somebody much more interesting than me.

[SPEAKER_05]: What about you Virginia?

[SPEAKER_05]: How is your week been?

[SPEAKER_05]: How have you been?

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry before we should introduce her who she is so because like Jessica tell she isn't pop but she is a she is editor for another website called dessert dessert to all right all right

[SPEAKER_02]: She's one of the awesome editors there, also a Giants stream fighter and fighting game enthusiasts and also a very cool cosplayer.

[SPEAKER_02]: I like to welcome Virginia Glace to the show.

[SPEAKER_02]: How are you doing?

[SPEAKER_03]: Doing great.

[SPEAKER_03]: Thank you all for having me.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm really excited.

[SPEAKER_03]: Similar.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm also been really busy.

[SPEAKER_03]: I went to a special screening of the new season of Uma Musume.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, the second part of the season yesterday and it was really fun.

[SPEAKER_03]: The energy was very very addictive.

[SPEAKER_03]: People were cosplaying.

[SPEAKER_03]: It was very cute.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't really know that much about the horse girls.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I thought it was fun.

[SPEAKER_03]: So.

[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, I don't know what's going on here.

[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_00]: Is it?

[SPEAKER_03]: Is it in me?

[SPEAKER_04]: So it's, I think it's a game that was made into a game.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was a game for the long time.

[SPEAKER_02]: And apparently, there's a giant giant back like lore story of it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like every horse is based on her real race horse in real life.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a personification of like each of those horses have or are now humans, but they still are they still have horse features like they still have like horse ears and tails and stuff it's very interesting, it's very interesting, but it it's very fun but do like every time every person that I've got interested it like half the people it's kind of fun.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's just one one rep for Sega is hooked on this game and it's like and you always just love it.

[SPEAKER_03]: I guess I should start playing it, but I don't want to get like such it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but now that's cool, but yeah, but anyways, like how are you doing?

[SPEAKER_02]: Like it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I know you'd like you said you were doing you did a lot of stuff like I was talking about three fighter You what so far you said that you your first was all just three fighter four Which one would you say is your least favorite or not?

[SPEAKER_02]: At least I'm sorry your favorite street fighter so far

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, geez.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm gonna have to go.

[SPEAKER_03]: This is gonna get me flamed.

[SPEAKER_03]: I really liked Street Fighter 5 because it was like the game that really got me into the scene.

[SPEAKER_03]: I have a lot of history with that game.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I felt really competent when I played that game, but also just like it was kind of the thing that started my career, you know, when Street Fighter 5 came out, I started writing about Street Fighter eSports and then started writing for Red Bull and then Capcom eSports and then I did a little writing for Tekken and Dragon Ball Fighters World Tour.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it was just kind of the thing that sparked everything.

[SPEAKER_03]: After that, I would have to say Altestream Fighter 4.

[SPEAKER_03]: I love that game.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's so much fun.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: So you probably hyped about Team C Viper coming into the mix.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, absolutely.

[SPEAKER_03]: She looks amazing.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like Angelina Jolie with a braid.

[SPEAKER_03]: Come on.

[SPEAKER_03]: They really did her correct.

[SPEAKER_02]: they really did.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's really awesome.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, welcome.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, welcome Virginia.

[SPEAKER_02]: I know we got a lot to talk about about for obvious reasons for what's coming up here.

[SPEAKER_02]: But then, but that's for me.

[SPEAKER_02]: I finally came back.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was away last week.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was on a cruise.

[SPEAKER_02]: Went to the Bahamas.

[SPEAKER_02]: And did my very first Disney cruise, a cruise period, which was amazing.

[SPEAKER_02]: I would say.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like,

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, I'm not I'm not a big Disney person, but like they know how to do service.

[SPEAKER_02]: I will say they definitely do a new service But when I got back I was just been playing a lot of the dragon ball get Keaton Squadra a lot the the mobile game.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm just hooked on that game dude.

[SPEAKER_02]: I've already so much fun.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's so much fun

[SPEAKER_02]: It's so much fun, but incredibly aggravating because you know, some of the people that you play, you just want to be like, just want to just ring them.

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's a good thing that there isn't voice chat or maybe there is.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, but

[SPEAKER_02]: You need to be talking more.

[SPEAKER_02]: It would be toxic.

[SPEAKER_02]: They need to.

[SPEAKER_02]: It is already incredibly toxic.

[SPEAKER_02]: But that's what I mean.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is the, like, you have, like, every time when you see people streaming it, and they just see people's angers in frustration, because some of these people just say, oh, my God, it is funny of some people, they melt down.

[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so then I also picked up is for you.

[SPEAKER_02]: So then also the steam of autumn sale is happening and I'm actually been I've been good Those so far.

[SPEAKER_02]: I did pick up one game because there was a game that people put on my list That they said I need to play because they loved me crashing out on Final Fantasy 13 because I go I was just people know how much my hatred is for that game

[SPEAKER_02]: They were like, say, okay, you need to play the second one because the second one's to go to one and I'm like, well, I mean, if it's a pile of crap or just a pile of crap to this, I mean, I think it can be better than that, you know, so it was on, it was on sale for $5 so I just said, okay, I'll just find it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, why is this guy going right in the face?

[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody's like, I know, but I know y'all don't want to see me crash out on this, uh, about these, uh, these upcoming topics.

[SPEAKER_02]: So let's go through the normal rig and roll that we like to do each and every week.

[SPEAKER_02]: So each of us,

[SPEAKER_02]: Choose the topic of discussion in the world of video games that happened in the previous week the topic would or could be a game itself or something that happened in the gaming industry and we do not want to talk about it amongst ourselves.

[SPEAKER_02]: We want you the listeners and viewers on twitch on twitch.tv slash see if she games and

[SPEAKER_02]: on YouTube at the CFG to be a part of the conversation as always.

[SPEAKER_02]: So if there is something to want to chime in, if you want to get your opinion out or just wanting to see what we thought, what we think about your opinion.

[SPEAKER_02]: By all means, type it inside the chat.

[SPEAKER_02]: We will talk with you and go from there.

[SPEAKER_02]: So this is going to be a little bit different because I think like I was telling somebody prior that I don't think there was a no contest or what we're going to talk about because this week,

[SPEAKER_02]: was wild of just information of just different.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, and all of the information was bad.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was like, I don't, I don't even know, like there's no sugar coating.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was just so crazy of a week.

[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't even had one of these kind of weeks in a while.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, but this one was just, just blue, like just terrible thing day after day, something else, something else coming out.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I think we'll just go with the most the most biggest one, which is Xbox, and it's, it's kind of funny.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's not really funny because, but it's kind of interesting the whole thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: So once we're short, if you don't know what's going on.

[SPEAKER_02]: Xbox decided to officially increase their prices for their Xbox game pass.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now they they went all around the board on this one there so they're most their cheapest one.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was their essentials plan is now has gone up to what?

[SPEAKER_02]: $13.99 or $14.99, I can't remember, but like, uh, do you check it up?

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: So the the lowest brand has gone down, gone, gone up, but the most, but the one that most people who have been focusing on was the, was the ultimate pass because the ultimate pass is the one that allowed you to do day one releases, all the other ones and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: So the ultimate came, went from $20,

[SPEAKER_02]: There is a slight thing that you could do, which is go do the PC version, just the PC side, which was increased from, I believe, was 1299, no, 1199 to 1699.

[SPEAKER_02]: It will still give you day one passes, but specifically just for PC.

[SPEAKER_02]: Essentials 10.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Essentials 10 now.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: It went from 799 to 999.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: So 799 to 999 and then the, okay, and then the premium, the mid, the mid one is now 1599 15.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: So 15 bucks.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then the ultimate was 30.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

[SPEAKER_02]: So because of this, I mean, everyone got, I mean, was got well, social media wise.

[SPEAKER_02]: I can't say everyone.

[SPEAKER_02]: But a lot of people said this isn't worth it anymore, as well as they shouldn't have been.

[SPEAKER_02]: as well as I told you agree with it.

[SPEAKER_02]: It never has to my opinion, but it they so mass Exodus of a lot of different things which has been going on in the past several days.

[SPEAKER_02]: When this was initially announced, there were so many people that were willing to cancel their services that their website for their cancellation shut down.

[SPEAKER_02]: They had it stopped working.

[SPEAKER_02]: and loading up correctly and just a lot of different like just I mean just the whole demeanor of all of this is just seems very very muted on the side of Xbox and Microsoft side.

[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a lot of that kind of wanting to talk about it's kind of going around and what you all like reactions were when this when this announcement came out like what the y'all think about it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Good afternoon.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, goodness.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm not much of an Xbox person.

[SPEAKER_03]: I am a PlayStation girl all day, but I do think like the amount of money that they increased it to like, like a disclet was really shady, but it kind of ties into like the growing sort of like a nickel and diamond of the industry.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like everything in general.

[SPEAKER_03]: You're getting charged for every little thing now.

[SPEAKER_03]: and things just keep becoming priceier and priceier like games are getting more expensive, but they're also more expensive to make.

[SPEAKER_03]: So where does that cost go to?

[SPEAKER_03]: I also feel like Microsoft is not really in everyone's good graces, and especially with this happening, it doesn't look good for their image in my opinion.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, it was definitely shocking though because as far as a new game pass was great and it was like one of the best things about having like an Xbox is like oh yeah, you can get all these games and if you just pay for you know game pass and that's like oh, I don't know if I want to spend 30 dollars every month, you know

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, I totally agree.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, Smitty, if anyone has been like, for years, has been the, the, the, the, the, the component.

[SPEAKER_02]: The last me brother of the last one for years.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like last, it has been like, like, like, rah rah rah with, with, with, with Xbox this kind of thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm, but like, I've never saw it, but what do you think, Smitty?

[SPEAKER_05]: And let me explain myself.

[SPEAKER_05]: Again, this is coming from somebody that has never owned an Xbox.

[SPEAKER_05]: To be able to have the ability to use Game Pass and to play Xbox exclusives, which is really no longer a thing.

[SPEAKER_05]: Now as we see this integration of games going over and less and less exclusivity,

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, this, I was on board.

[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, I think I see what their vision is.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like, hey, everybody games, you can play everywhere.

[SPEAKER_05]: We just want to get you into the ecosystem, but $30 a month, that's what, $360 a year or something like that.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, you're just pricing people out.

[SPEAKER_05]: But here's the thing on the heels of this though.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's also rumblings of this ad-supported uh... I saw that and I could not believe it.

[SPEAKER_03]: You get five hours total.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I haven't even I Yeah, I was going to go to Kevin lead into that.

[SPEAKER_02]: You mentioned this.

[SPEAKER_02]: So what they're doing what what Xbox is proposing to do is So their their push is now starting to be clear as they are what they're wanting to do so their big thing is is that they're wanting to do cloud gaming They're push is going to be cloud gaming.

[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want to use a system of physical system or anything and

[SPEAKER_02]: So their push is that they're trying to find ways for people to be introduced into their ecosystem by allowing people to get into their gaming into that world for free to test it out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, not necessarily to test it out, but to say that there is a free.

[SPEAKER_02]: a free tier for people to play so what they are proposing actually I pretty much will say they will because I think that's what that's that's so path that they're going to take is that they're going to be announcing a free tier for cloud game Xbox of cloud gaming but to do that it's going to be a two-minute pre-ad for now find you this is a pre-ad

[SPEAKER_02]: for two minutes for you to look at the ad before you're able to play, but then you have a limit of five hours for I believe is it the month, I believe it's five hours in the month or yeah, five hours in a month.

[SPEAKER_02]: for the free tier.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's from what I'm reading it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I might be wrong, but like, but yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, so they're doing it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so here's my problem.

[SPEAKER_02]: First off, this is actually kind of funny, because like in my opinion, with all of this, Irene, you're a new hour, I'm going to go with this, because I've been saying this for you.

[SPEAKER_02]: You've been saying, you've been saying this for you.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I was inevitable and here's the funniest thing about this because Smitty set me up.

[SPEAKER_02]: We went to we went to Pax West, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: This is a stupid story, but we went to Pax West.

[SPEAKER_02]: We went to the Polish party.

[SPEAKER_02]: I see Smitty talking to some random dot.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, another name.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of weird.

[SPEAKER_02]: I went to a random guy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I see somebody talking to a random guy.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then he starts talking about Xbox Game Pass to this guy.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then I got into it, I mean, I don't think I was asked about it, but then I kind of interjected, I was like, yeah, I don't know if I trust the Xbox Game Pass that helped him my reasons.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like once again, when people are about Xbox Game Passing me, I'll believe I'm just gonna call it out and then I do I talk to this guy about it about the negativity when me not trusting it This guy comes out then turns out to be he's one of the lawyers for Xbox

[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, it's really just sat there looking out there as it like didn't tell me doesn't what tell me what he did or nothing.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I just like gave him a but my point was the point stands exactly what I was worried about.

[SPEAKER_02]: I told the guy exactly what was going to happen.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then this and this was a month ago, but I think what pisses me off is that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so here's the thing that like what really pisses me off is that the Microsoft's Dick themselves in a whole Sarah Bond two weeks ago prior to all of this was said in they call that that Xbox Game Pass was profitable.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was generating a record $5 billion revenue in the previous fiscal year.

[SPEAKER_02]: And so basically you're going by what the numbers we're showing or what they were giving that's been currently being going on.

[SPEAKER_02]: Then in two weeks later, they decided to jack the price up the way that they did.

[SPEAKER_02]: So now you're in the position where it's going to look like one of two things.

[SPEAKER_02]: And they're both bad.

[SPEAKER_02]: One, Serabon is lying to us, which is going to be, which is basically saying that, okay, so we don't know what, like, what is really happening on, on game paths in the back inside, or two, Microsoft is incredibly greedy that they don't, they don't give a shit about, about their, about their families.

[SPEAKER_03]: I feel like probably what happened was they were like, oh, this is doing so well for us.

[SPEAKER_03]: We can make even more money if we charge even more.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's probably what happened.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I still don't think the math really maths.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's kind of weird because like when you think about the money that like Francis call it like what Call of Duty puts in when you were had to buy the game, buy the maps, buy the DLC, all the different kinds of stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like you're like the game itself is 70 bucks.

[SPEAKER_02]: And now you're straight now you traded that over to a monthly premium thing for $20 a month like it doesn't matter like what do they project it call duty blocks or black ops six costs seven hundred million dollars to make.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, and then you're telling me that like like that kind of I mean just that block alone out of that and the hundreds of games are on game paths and then you're saying that that one with that one game at 20 dollars a month is going to get their money back from all of that is just doesn't make sense to me is all of this.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was just waiting for when the, when something's got to give.

[SPEAKER_02]: And now that black up sevens is coming out, it's probably just as expensive as what six cost, and this is not, this is one of the many other studios that are running AAA.

[SPEAKER_02]: Then on top of that, the mass amount of cancellations of games that they've already did announced on canceling, canceling, canceling the games just to keep up and save the money.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't know if we may be seeing like how Microsoft, I'll see how Microsoft is going to be like, you know, going to be giving back good faith to the people and if the people are going to trust them at this point, you know?

[SPEAKER_05]: And, and hear me out, here's where I see this kind of being also a positive, and we're seeing it a lot, especially with these AAA companies and whatnot.

[SPEAKER_05]: They're being run essentially by corpos, and corpos is the anti-I feel of the gaming culture.

[SPEAKER_05]: and the gaming culture and gamers themselves are going to speak with their dollars.

[SPEAKER_05]: Not only that, but the economy in general is rough around the world.

[SPEAKER_05]: So people are a lot more stingy about where they're going to be spending their dollars for entertainment for these luxury items such as gaming.

[SPEAKER_05]: These big companies are now pricing out your common people.

[SPEAKER_05]: I think this puts a spotlight even more on indie games and double-A studios to be able to sneak in and really grab some of that share of gamers not only with making good games, but being able to get that loyalty factor.

[SPEAKER_05]: because the loyalty to these big companies from gamers is waning more and more inch, it's not even by the year.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's by the week at this point, because they're dropping all these crazy, you know, all these crazy pricing creases and this and that people are like, nah, dude, I'm out.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm out.

[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, I think this could be a got a good opportunity for smaller studios.

[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you're so right, because silk song, you know, had a really incredibly low price point.

[SPEAKER_03]: And it was such a good game.

[SPEAKER_03]: Everyone, you know, bought it, was loving it.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, it was hard, but people love it.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think to your point, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Like these small indie studios are that it's right for the taking.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Expedition 33, small team.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're game of the year contender.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I definitely think we're going to be seeing more of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, probably it's Expedition 33.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's a Microsoft own company.

[SPEAKER_02]: I think I'm more worried about is that it's going to be the vacuum it's going to be the next time it's going to be the vacuum because I don't I think what really screwed Microsoft is that acquisition to activation blizzard.

[SPEAKER_02]: Because like the amount of money that because originally Microsoft and Xbox were working autonomously on their own their own different sides, but then the amount of money that they got to buy all these different kinds of companies and studios out to be under the Microsoft, the Xbox brand is now to a point where they're saying, hey, you need to make more more money showing we more money coming in from all of these investments that you that you're giving us.

[SPEAKER_02]: And

[SPEAKER_02]: And they're not they're just not doing it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I just don't I just don't see like, how like the the the quote unquote features that they're doing with this $30 increase just to justify it is just bull crap.

[SPEAKER_02]: You lost more when you really think about it because originally like if you are an ultimate game passholder, you're able you got 10% discount for DLC content and things like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's removed and not fully removed, but most things are fully on our mood from that from that deal.

[SPEAKER_02]: You can't use your points anymore for your monthly, for your gamepassel, your gamepassel things as well.

[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing that's giving you is, oh, you can get Ubisoft plus classics.

[SPEAKER_02]: And like, who the hell plays like, yeah, like to do that?

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you can easily just go out and buy

[SPEAKER_02]: freaking those games for like under five bucks you know and it just doesn't like none of us adds up and then plus the upcoming um um uh allied rog x that's coming out the game is not the yeah oh what we're gonna say Virginia

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I was also talking about like the thinking about the Xbox handheld thing, that's like $1,000 or some such, I was speaking to my coworker about it, he got to review it.

[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if our review has gone live, so I won't say too much, but like if you are a Windows PC gamer, apparently that's like the best things that's sliced bread and it's better than the steam deck, but I'm like $1,000, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's just everything's getting so expensive.

[SPEAKER_03]: It feels so like overwhelming.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yo, it's funny though.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like it can be the best thing since sliced bread, but then the problem is like if you can't afford that, then what is it then then your deal is going to be because like right now, you can get a steam deck for 249.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for as low the lowest one for 249, but you're paying a thousand dollars on your top brand and then I think the mid-brand is the low brand is seven hundred six.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so it's a yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so then what's even worse to me about that is the fact that that game system requires you to be on like a 100% online like you could It's cloud base is the store nothing is stored on that system.

[SPEAKER_02]: So that alone rules me out on it for me period.

[SPEAKER_02]: I like to just be like a hard drive would be fine enough, but you can tell me you don't even have that is crazy

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Tony says even switch to increase a Harley play my original one.

[SPEAKER_05]: Why am I going to spend more with the system that's not going to get Harley played because I got a wait for certain games.

[SPEAKER_05]: I agree with you 100% Tony that's kind of how I was I did get an end up getting a switch to but I wasn't like.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like, oh, I have to have this.

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, there was nothing.

[SPEAKER_05]: And again, I'm a huge Mario Kart fan.

[SPEAKER_05]: So that to me, that literally was like, if they have a new Mario Kart, I'm in.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm getting it.

[SPEAKER_05]: I'm good.

[SPEAKER_05]: But really, there's not been a ton of games for the system.

[SPEAKER_05]: Again, it's newer consoles.

[SPEAKER_05]: There's still building up the library and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_05]: And there is no real reason.

[SPEAKER_05]: I feel like for people to make the move if you already have a switch one.

[SPEAKER_02]: you know what I mean so yeah you're absolutely right like if you're good like I don't want to be you know yeah my beef on that is that you need to get physical they need to get physical copies of that stupid system because that drives me insane that I'm not doing game pass game key cards that's really good yeah I definitely feel like the the move toward like we don't have to strive anymore is like depressing to me and it's not just because like

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm, you know, grew up with like, you know, DVDs and CDs and like the PlayStation 2 PlayStation 3, it was like you have a disk.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's what it is.

[SPEAKER_03]: Put the disk in the thing in a place.

[SPEAKER_03]: It just feels like I want to own what I buy.

[SPEAKER_03]: And if I can't like own it physically, then I feel like I don't know if that makes sense.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: No, no, it makes a lot of sense, because that's exactly why I want to get from fancy tactics.

[SPEAKER_02]: I want to get it on the Switch too, but it's going to be a game-key card.

[SPEAKER_02]: I do not want digital games on disk period.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's my thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: I do not fold off of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: So there are certain games I do, I'm fine with digital, but games like that, especially RPGs and things.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I have a physical.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's no other ways.

[SPEAKER_05]: I wanted to see real quick what your guys thoughts were on like game stop continuing to sell their ultimate for $20.

[SPEAKER_05]: I know there's been some other ones Walmart target but there's wasn't like a they just haven't made the change but like game stop went out of their way to say yo we're not gonna increase our price talking about people taking advantage of these dumb bone-headed moves that they're making you know I just wanted to see what your guys thoughts were on that.

[SPEAKER_02]: All I mean I'm just saying like I think it's just they have a they have storage of all the stuff that they've already they've already bought it so right like it's so if you if you increase the price of something that you've already bought at $10 it's just bad like first like so I just think that they're just going to get keep with what they got.

[SPEAKER_02]: and uh, and then until until that sells out, I mean, I don't get me wrong, but I think game stop has been on the key on these increases, except that one day when they deal with the uh, with that Nintendo switch increases, and they're like, hey, we're going to give you a little bit of a bonus, but that that bonus was like, it was there for like two days or something,

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we like pop sets up to get to us about it.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, what, they did an increase.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, oh, yeah, if you still turn in, you'll still have the same, the same value, though, they increased the value up like $50 or something.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, oh, really?

[SPEAKER_02]: Then I looked at those to the fine print and we're going to go for like two days.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then we're going to bring it back to the street.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, that was strategic.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was very strategic, but no, but yeah, I mean, it's good for games on.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's more than about it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, look at what Costco and what Sam's club did.

[SPEAKER_02]: Not saying that Sam does a big, a big issue.

[SPEAKER_02]: Costco said it's just not, we're not going to get you money on this stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: So they, they scrapped it.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're not, they don't carry it anymore.

[SPEAKER_02]: Sam's family, they're, they're discounting.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're discounting the system.

[SPEAKER_02]: So as

[SPEAKER_02]: They want out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I just think that and who would blame them at this point, you know?

[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just that they now know that what the the path that they're going, because we know Microsoft's path isn't the gaming side.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's AI.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: and their biggest focus is that they're trying to get their biggest investments towards AI.

[SPEAKER_02]: So what they're looking for, I think what they're seeing how much money they invested on the gaming sector of this, and then they're doing all these different kinds of weird things, like, I will not be surprised if we're going to be seeing a incredible change of how Microsoft's like ecosystem is going to be like, like, to now, I am dead surprise that Sarah Bond and Phil Spencer has his job.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I really do.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even, and the other one, Matt Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe, Boe

[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard to say because, I mean, Microsoft has just, it has an infinite amount of money.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're, they're, they're classified as five points up than trillion dollars.

[SPEAKER_02]: So we don't know like what, what they're going to do, but the amount of money that they're going to do, what, what this, what this brand, I, I don't know, but like, I've lost, I mean, I didn't,

[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted Microsoft to be successful because I think us as a gamer if we have competition clean healthy competition towards other for the opposite sides everyone will win but I don't know if this is if this is the competition that we're going to be looking at with Microsoft in this future.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so there you go.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

[SPEAKER_02]: So wait, what did you say, Tony?

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, say, yeah, I don't like that you have to use online to play a game like like Virginia said.

[SPEAKER_02]: I want my physical game.

[SPEAKER_02]: I want to play it without have to have to be online and knowing it, uh, knowing I own it and they aren't going to take back because, uh, because it's under their cloud.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's big as number one.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, remember, they remember that they were, I forgot who who made it, but the crew got sued.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we saw Ubisoft, Ubisoft got sued because of that, because they, they told he removed it off of their cloud, the service side.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, for people that bought it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Just get back out.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Just take it back out.

[SPEAKER_05]: There were people that worked on it to bring it back.

[SPEAKER_02]: for the man.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: So, and you just haven't done anything.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just like, if I work on that game, I would be so sad that that happened.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, regardless of, you know, sales or how it was received, it's like, man, that's something I worked on.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, with the heck.

[SPEAKER_02]: I know, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, so we'll see, you know, and I mean, I won't feel sorry for the folks that have a full digital library library because they went all in on game pass, but at the same time, it's like, guys, that you're like stuck to it so you can't, so you don't lose everything from it, you know, so.

[SPEAKER_02]: But anyways, Microsoft gets a shit together, please.

[SPEAKER_03]: What are you doing?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's a car.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you'll come up with it.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a hell, man.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I never, okay, so like it's really couldn't attest to this.

[SPEAKER_02]: I, I never bit on the game past a trend.

[SPEAKER_05]: So you didn't, you've always pushed back on it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so I will never, so I'm good, but I just don't know what's going to happen.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like now, I just don't feel like this, the future isn't inside.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then as Black Ops 7 came out, I don't see the hype on 7 as much as I've seen for the other ones.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like just the normal hype for it.

[SPEAKER_02]: It just seems like it's there at all.

[SPEAKER_05]: There is the big thing about, about Call of Duty in general, is that there's a cheater problem.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, you're probably.

[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, well, didn't the beta happen recently?

[SPEAKER_03]: And it was already like a ton of cheeses.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm like, how it just came out?

[SPEAKER_03]: What?

[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_05]: It's a new game of in place for when a game releases.

[SPEAKER_03]: It takes us so in fun for everyone.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, I don't have the answers for that whatsoever, but I imagine I'd be feeling a lot of pressure as like a developer or as the company if that was like the state of my game.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because I know, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I do have a question though like so like when it comes to cheaters like that like why is it infested like a game like that is infested with cheaters but is like fortnight or any of these other ones that are I mean they're not similar games but they're all they're massively online for like you know first person in third party shooters and stuff like why do we not hear about that for the other for like other for other games do it's a matter of like you know I mean I know you can't really talk for the company but

[SPEAKER_02]: is it's just a matter of accessibility.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's a lot easier for one than it is than the other, like what, why is Call of Duty so riddled with it with cheaters?

[SPEAKER_05]: I think a lot of it boils down to money and how they can make money.

[SPEAKER_05]: So you have these people that are putting out these crazy clips, they end up getting sponsorship deals or whatever.

[SPEAKER_05]: But again, you know, they're getting invited to these events and stuff like that, but

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, it's all built off them using cheats and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_05]: So the skills not really there, but you know, I think you is a lot more prevalent in that scene because the amount of money that people are putting into the influencers and stuff like that.

[SPEAKER_05]: At least that's, you know, again, that's just me speculating, but that's kind of the way that I've figured why you hear about it so much in Call of Duty specifically.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I also think like maybe that community is a bit more vocal on social media about it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, think about like the kinds of people who would probably be playing, you know, Call of Duty versus like Fortnite, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: If you're like, you know, a kid playing Fortnite, whatever, you know, you just, I mean, I don't know if it's like a gaming demographic thing or if it's just like, this is a more vocal scene than the people who play Fortnite.

[SPEAKER_03]: Because I'm sure there's two years in Fortnite too, so it's really interesting.

[SPEAKER_03]: I agree.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, okay, okay.

[SPEAKER_02]: All right, for enough.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so we'll move on and I actually know it.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to kind of introduce this one, but I kind of think you would have a better feel of this than I do Virginia about the next topic, so like what's so what the hell's going on with Capcom?

[SPEAKER_03]: So I do have some insight on to the directorial side of the game about this, but essentially for this year's Capcom Cup, so Capcom Cup 2020, it's taking place in 26.

[SPEAKER_03]: Capcom Cup 12 is going to be pay per view.

[SPEAKER_03]: which is kind of an unheard of situation within the finding game community, at least.

[SPEAKER_03]: I have never had to pay to watch a capcom cup in my life.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and now for what I, there is there's three different tiers.

[SPEAKER_03]: I'm looking at the image right now.

[SPEAKER_03]: So you can watch the Street Fighter League World Cup Finals for 4,000 yen, which I think is probably around.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's less than $40.

[SPEAKER_03]: You have $30.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, you can watch the Capcom Cup finals for the same price, or you can watch them bundled for 6,000 yen, which is $50.

[SPEAKER_03]: I would imagine, which is damn near the price of the base game when you buy it Right in the store

[SPEAKER_02]: It's a seasoned DLC.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that is.

[SPEAKER_02]: It is.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: So understandably, a lot of the FGC was taken back by this.

[SPEAKER_03]: Now from what I understand, I think SFL Japan has been paid per view before.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that isn't new in itself, but whenever you're making Capcom Cup, paid world, that's like, okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: now you're you know and also I think a lot of people were concerned about like the lack of a storyline this year amongst a lot of the competitors.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's not really a whole lot of like you know crazy stuff that's been happening and also this also ties into people's complaints about the Capcom Pro Tour especially how it's been since the pandemic.

[SPEAKER_03]: um, and the release of Street Fighter 6.

[SPEAKER_03]: I remember it was a lot of online tournaments like hardly any, you know, in real life premieres.

[SPEAKER_03]: And now we have more premieres, which is great.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's good.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think we should have more in-person tournaments.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're working toward that, you know.

[SPEAKER_03]: But,

[SPEAKER_03]: And I think World Warriors great, but the entire point of the fighting in community is like community right like we need to be there together at these tournaments compete you know see each other grow closer as a community and so when there's less of that it makes it a little bit you know doesn't feel as authentic.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I obviously, the CPT in the Street Fighter Five's lifetime was flawed in its own ways, but I do think, like, if you just had more online, I think that'd be fine.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, people compete and you get points for competing in these things depending on where you place of them or you compete, the more points you get, and then, hey, maybe you can qualify.

[SPEAKER_03]: Or you can go to the LSUQ.

[SPEAKER_03]: I heard that there isn't an LSUQ this year for Capcom Cup, which is kind of crazy.

[SPEAKER_03]: So just with all of that said, you know, putting the final tournament of the year behind a paywall for like everyone is, you know, like you should still be able to get in person tickets, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously there's advertisers and sponsors, but it feels very a slap in the face to the community.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I think it's how a lot of people are feeling.

[SPEAKER_03]: And we also have Nakayama's comments on Twitter about it, who basically was as surprised as everyone else.

[SPEAKER_03]: He was like, whoa, this is new to me.

[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't know about this.

[SPEAKER_03]: These are two completely different teams.

[SPEAKER_03]: So like the development team for Street Fighter 6 is a completely different entity than Street Fighter 6 Esports.

[SPEAKER_03]: And apparently they don't talk to each other very much, given what we know, which is kind of a shame.

[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I,

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, in like the media, you kind of hear things, but Matsumoto's son has been very stressed out about this.

[SPEAKER_03]: He does not feel super great about it.

[SPEAKER_03]: He feels very under pressure.

[SPEAKER_03]: And you could tell that like they really want to do right by the FTC.

[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, not okay, I'm just talking about it even at the risk of like getting yelled at, you know, by his superior as being transparent.

[SPEAKER_03]: So, and like I've really been proud of the direction that they've taken Street Fighter, especially like after,

[SPEAKER_03]: Street Fighter 5 is a very messy logic and initial reception, so I do think that they want the best for the community.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's more so that separate esports department is doing things that are way different.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I think in Japan, Street Fighter 6 is extremely popular as an esport, like it's huge.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's wildly crazy.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so that in Japan it makes sense why they would be like, oh, let's do it pay per view.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, maybe that will incentivize more people to pay for it,

[SPEAKER_03]: in Japan, but a lot of people have been commenting, you know, oh, that feels a bit premature.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we're not very on a worldwide scale, because the FUC isn't just a pin.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's everywhere, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, everyone plays fighting games and to sort of region lock that behind, you know, okay, well, it doesn't feel very good.

[SPEAKER_03]: So that's what's been happening.

[SPEAKER_03]: And my take on it is, you know, proceed with caution, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm hopeful that things will change.

[SPEAKER_03]: I really hope that they don't pay while at least Capcom Cup, like Street Fighter League.

[SPEAKER_03]: I could see that, you know, they've done it before apparently, but and correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure they have done that for the Street Fighter League Japan.

[SPEAKER_03]: I could be wrong.

[SPEAKER_03]: But like, just Capcom Cup, like, making that, like, I understand if you want to, like, be their in person.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes, tickets.

[SPEAKER_03]: you know, charge them for tickets, you know, that makes sense.

[SPEAKER_03]: But, like, the stream, like, I got to pay to watch as these sports, you know, what, like, literally every other these sports as far as I know you can just watch it on Twitch and like, if you're there.

[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't even make any sense at all because, like, theoretically, with, like, with Capcom Cubs final, okay, so like, what's weird is that, well, SFL's always been that way, in a way.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, in a way, it's not...

[SPEAKER_02]: out of the ordinary for them to kind of, you know, stretch a little bit more because they're already currently getting the fact that, that it an official Capcom's final, that Capcom owns.

[SPEAKER_02]: And specifically, the, I think it's the top eight, the final eight.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: The stuff prior to that is, it goes to the LG, it's like locals, it's locals, it's other people that they're running it and all these different kinds of things is like, if you're going to do that, you need to take, you need to take all of it.

[SPEAKER_02]: not just not just the finals itself in the sense it's like now makes it look like it you're just squeezing squeezing the accessibility for everybody that is interested in this but but this and let alone saying charging 40 to 50 bucks for it yeah excuse me at a like in a global area of course we're going to say no because it'll be like dude you've been we've been seeing this free for over like what

[SPEAKER_02]: 10, 15 years is like, it's crazy.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, you're out of your freaking mind, you know?

[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like going with like, you know, the community-based aspect, if you see a so community-centric, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Like people cut, like, go to the local and watch it, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Go to the, the, the, the friends house and like watch it all, you know, all together on on stream, where you go there, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: It's such a community-based thing that it does feel pretty bad to like, then, oh, but you have to pay to see it.

[SPEAKER_03]: Right, like the just doesn't feel very community focused to me.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, it definitely, definitely absolutely is in, but I think like, and, and yeah, like you're saying, you got to give credit to the developer to the team of, uh, uh, knocking on a song in them, uh, because you're right.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's that it, it's just, but it's weird because this isn't something, this isn't new, uh, when it comes to, uh, Japanese, like, you know, people not the Japanese industries not talking to each other, uh,

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it's like, but this one is just the most egregious because like what's weird is that Nakayama was essentially, I would say Nakayama is the savior of Street Fighter V. Because when five came in, like you said, five had a horrible start, then when he switched over, then DLC, the DLC content, he basically got the yes for everything that he was going to do for that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then to make it successful, they were doing things like, you know, oh, special SFL skins and things like that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, that was so cute.

[SPEAKER_03]: But to say that a lot of people have been saying that they should go back to that model and I agree because they're off like I would buy it Why not?

[SPEAKER_02]: I would buy that because you're getting something out of that and then put then and to say that they never had that conversation in six is unbelievable to me Yeah, yeah, sorry to head

[SPEAKER_02]: I was gonna say the biggest issue with six right now is that y'all they are so stingy with skins and I don't know why they are so stingy with it.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so it would be easy to get your money cooped up to say at five to seven to five to ten dollar skin or whatever for these four for this DLC you're gonna get your money.

[SPEAKER_02]: You're gonna get all these different kinds of stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: You're still gonna let people be watching the game that they've been wanting to put the they've been openly watching for forever for free.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I just don't see it, I don't see how that wasn't even in the cards in the first place.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm sorry.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: I definitely think some things internally changed on the release of Street Fighter 6.

[SPEAKER_03]: But also, I do think the model had to change to accommodate for the pandemic.

[SPEAKER_03]: I do think that that kind of changed a lot of things.

[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, again, the Street Fighter 6 being super popular in Japan.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're probably thinking this is a good business decision just from the home turf standpoint.

[SPEAKER_03]: But I don't know if that's going to translate while to the rest of the scene.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I think fighting ends are so unique in how we engage with the product that this ultimately will be hurt.

[SPEAKER_03]: Like it will hurt them.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, like there's definitely ways to get around, you know, losses financially for this, right?

[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's little, these parts is really difficult to make money, you know, it doesn't, like, it's kind of a money sink, but as you said, and a lot of, you know, the conversation has been running, you just sell skins, you know, sell things to support CPT, and then also, you get the advertisement for in-game, so people know it's happening and, you know, they know to watch it.

[SPEAKER_03]: They know where to watch it.

[SPEAKER_03]: They know when it's happening, you know?

[SPEAKER_03]: But obviously, I'm not in the industry like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not working at Capcom.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: We're just doing this.

[SPEAKER_05]: This could potentially also be a pivot move on paper abuse part since the UFC is going over to was it Netflix, I think?

[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: So like, what is going to be on paper view?

[SPEAKER_05]: If fights aren't going to be on there any longer, I think.

[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: if boxing on there like are they looking for a new avenue to be able to generate because otherwise I think paper view just dies, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean you obviously can get away with it because you have seen has been doing it this way for a long period of time, you know, like with paper views and stuff forever.

[SPEAKER_02]: If anything, paper view has been slowly dying for a long time when it comes to this stuff, that's just

[SPEAKER_02]: since these crazy conglomerates like Netflix and stuff are now starting to be like yeah we just need the views and that's what we're satisfied with not paying the $60 for one person to do a paperview party but I can understand it for that model because it wouldn't work but I don't

[SPEAKER_02]: if we're there yet let alone for FGC to be yet as they know we are no I don't think we're nowhere near because like you know and here's why I would even think that even in the first place look at evo evo is like the number one fighting game tournament in the world it really is like I mean it may not be the hardest one because that's where Japan's both most of their tournaments in Japan are insane but it is the most prestigious one for Vegas in its sense

[SPEAKER_02]: the amount of money that you get for a number one in Street Fighter is so agregously low that it would be like comparatively to and what is it e-sports it's probably like like okay so last year punk I think was mad because he only got I think was 15,000 but it was wrong it was supposed to be about 25 to 30 that was it

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so comparatively lives opposed to so many other ones like call even Call of Duty, all these other big brands are getting over like millions of dollars like like yeah, League of Legends and stuff like that even like a split of a team of five, you're still getting maybe 10 times more than what you would get it for an FTC turn it turn it so we are we are incredibly even though we do are we have a we're allowed on the like in social media and stuff we are relatively small when it comes to

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think that, like, and for, I mean, I'm just a stupid, like, you know, editor or small, like a, you know, website stuff like that, you know, uh, so I don't know what they're doing, but I do my own preacher.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's a ton of smarter people out there to say that they're going to weigh the cost for them to say that, okay, you know what, this is going to catering, this feels like it's keeping catering more for the Japanese crowd, especially when it does.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and and let alone that they that they're putting these prices in Japanese and Japanese Yeah, and something they're saying they're making it local, but they haven't even thought about everyone else at place even though the champion in the past three years has not been in Japan.

[SPEAKER_02]: You know, yeah, it's funny to me that like that that that that that's that they're this close minded off to be like, okay, the risk is we're going to get more money doing that then then then what we were doing in the past with skins and stuff like that, which is I don't know even I don't even know like like.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's really miscommunication and then just the fact that you're just doing that that you're that close minded off on like not thinking about looking at the brand at a global scale and this is where I think their failure is is where it's coming up with Capcom.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, and I don't think this is anything to like obviously we know they're two totally different teams.

[SPEAKER_03]: There's no communication there, so hopefully they're able to sort this out and like at least find a better way to move forward, you know.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, I do feel for them because you know, they obviously are very stressed about it, but it's like, okay, like these sports team making the decisions, it doesn't feel like they're really tapped in to like the global.

[SPEAKER_03]: scene, especially with how the tour is set up now.

[SPEAKER_03]: So it would be nice to see like a little bit of more communication between those two teams.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm hoping that that's the result of this.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I just hope they do kind of find a way to kind of make one somewhat happy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Would you say Tony?

[SPEAKER_02]: So he says, yeah, some courts just want more money and can't careless and can't care less of the fan base of what made those games great and loved by seeing these

[SPEAKER_02]: it's weird for me like to even like, I mean, yes, I mean, EA is basically born in that world.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's how it is, what it is when it comes to, but when it comes to Capcom, I think it's just the, it's a little bit of both, but I don't know if the right people in those corporations are like, even though they're not speaking to each other, I don't think that they're looking, they're not looking at a bigger picture.

[SPEAKER_02]: This is looking at this and up like in the objective way.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if they what they're thinking or why they're thinking or justified.

[SPEAKER_02]: They don't and they don't have to answer the reason for the public quite frankly.

[SPEAKER_02]: But I think that like a brand like Street Fighter at this point in time, especially when you see I think what they are seeing is that they are seeing the short term goal of like saying Dear Lord, it is expensive.

[SPEAKER_02]: bloating in Japan.

[SPEAKER_02]: Like, like I said, the views that people are getting like streamers in Japan, their streaming streetfire is like abnormally large.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: And they're just seeing that.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then that's what they're pushing their decision for.

[SPEAKER_02]: But it's tough.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's tough for me to think that that's what that because in the past, Capcom's ever been this,

[SPEAKER_02]: this restrictive.

[SPEAKER_02]: I would say.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why that's why it feels weird it feels out of it feels really out of nowhere out of character for them way out of the character for it because they really do care about their IPs.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's very it's very interesting.

[SPEAKER_02]: So it's really what you say.

[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, well, let's hope let's hope we hear something different.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hopefully they're going to they're not going to go and pursue what they're playing on doing and go from there.

[SPEAKER_02]: So many, I'd say if you do me fair run, let me borrow six thousand yen in an

[SPEAKER_02]: Rob, okay, right on top of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, but not really good, really good topics.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, but the last topic is, well, the last one, like I said, major news, the beginning of the week, out of all of it.

[SPEAKER_02]: And all of the stuff that's happened the week, this is the smallest out of it that EA has been bought by a by a small investment group.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now, I think this is more of a buy out because I believe EA is a public public fund, a public investment invested, right?

[SPEAKER_02]: So they must have bought enough shares to say we're going to buy you out.

[SPEAKER_02]: for this to happen.

[SPEAKER_02]: So the amount that EA got their sold, and this is to a, well, the primary owner of this, of this acquisitions, the company was PIF, which is owned by, it's a Saudi group, that it's the public investment fund that that that's oddies used to use to invest out.

[SPEAKER_02]: So they sold this sold to this fund for $55 billion.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now,

[SPEAKER_02]: The way that this is going to work is going to be really, really crazy, because mind you, like I said, they're the majority holder, the second older of this, you know, it's Jared Kushner.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's his portfolio group that he's that he best in, and I forgot the name of the third group.

[SPEAKER_02]: But the whole craziness of this is going to be crazy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Now because of the way that this is being bought out,

[SPEAKER_02]: EA is getting pushed for a, that they owe $20 billion in debt because of this, because of this buyout.

[SPEAKER_02]: And this is going to be a giant giant mess on trying to, trying to re-acquire the stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: So you know what this means?

[SPEAKER_02]: To me, when I heard about this, first off, EA is already, they've been kind of dead to me for a long time.

[SPEAKER_02]: They had small sparks with like a little dragon age.

[SPEAKER_02]: I love the new dragon age and stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: But things like,

[SPEAKER_02]: a buyer where probably going to be gone.

[SPEAKER_02]: There's no way I just don't see how buyer where is going to survive this in any way.

[SPEAKER_02]: Studios are going to be shut down.

[SPEAKER_02]: Their main goal is that they're wanting to incorporate AI as part of their process of creating games.

[SPEAKER_02]: So there's going to be a lot of layoffs going to be happening.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I just think I don't see a lot of good things are coming out of all of this, but at the same time, I'm just like, you know what, sure what, let me, what's going to happen.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to see man 2,000, another man, another FC 20 something.

[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be showing that there's not going to be, I think there's going to be, they're going to be limited when it comes to newer games and things are going to be outside the box.

[SPEAKER_02]: So, and I mean, I don't know what's going to end up with what's going to, how this is going to be.

[SPEAKER_02]: At first, I was just like, wow, well,

[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like when I first initially saw this, I saw that Saudi Arabia is definitely pushing the game to be the leader in the leading city.

[SPEAKER_02]: A country for gaming at this point with the EWC and all these different kinds of things that they're trying to do.

[SPEAKER_02]: They're building a gaming city over there in Saudi Arabia.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's just crazy like what they're trying to do.

[SPEAKER_02]: But like I was like the least of the things that I would have thought was to say that EA is going to be bought by these groups.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even know what to say about this.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't even have a way to even react on it.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't come on and get y'all's opinions with y'all to what y'all think about this by out.

[SPEAKER_05]: I have a lot to say, if you have been watching the gamecast for the last, I don't know year and a half or so, you've heard me talk about the PIF, this Saudi public investment one.

[SPEAKER_05]: They announced here, I think it was a couple of years ago, that they were going to be investing 150 billion dollars into the video game sector.

[SPEAKER_05]: Here's where it's scary to me, the influence that this investment fund has has been crazy.

[SPEAKER_05]: We've seen it make and break people, hint hint, the embrace or group.

[SPEAKER_05]: They are struggling right now because an investment fell through with the Piff.

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know what it was, what they had planned.

[SPEAKER_05]: But remember, it was a multi-billion dollar investment that fell through at the last minute.

[SPEAKER_05]: Then all of a sudden they just started shedding companies

[SPEAKER_05]: of what it used to be.

[SPEAKER_05]: We just watched them by an Atlantic with savvy games, savvy games is owned by the Piff Mind you, okay?

[SPEAKER_05]: We talked about, you said the esports world cup, the amount of influence that they have in the video game sector is scary.

[SPEAKER_05]: Um, I don't know what it means.

[SPEAKER_05]: Uh, you know, like you said, there's definitely going to be jobs lost, studios shut down or sold off, uh, whatever, and you know what?

[SPEAKER_05]: The writings have been on the wall.

[SPEAKER_05]: EA not too long ago had made a statement about, oh, we're not going to sell off this net, but we knew that things were rocky and have been turbulent.

[SPEAKER_05]: They've been waiting for somebody to bail them out.

[SPEAKER_05]: They knew and they've been known that they've been struggling.

[SPEAKER_05]: They needed somebody to bail them out.

[SPEAKER_05]: So,

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, this has probably been in the works here for a while, we're just getting to information now.

[SPEAKER_05]: Of course, nothing is set in stone yet.

[SPEAKER_05]: This is obviously subject to government scrutiny.

[SPEAKER_05]: So we'll see what the government says.

[SPEAKER_05]: Obviously there's not a ton of of.

[SPEAKER_05]: regulations necessarily within the sector, however, when it comes to business, like business, like percentages, and the amount, you know, and monopolies and things like that, I'm sure there's going to be talks of that stuff, but I don't...

[SPEAKER_05]: no or really see a reason why this would get stopped again you had you had mentioned the silver lake silver lake they they've got a ton you know their investment firm uh their global and whatnot and then affinity partners like you said is uh

[SPEAKER_05]: uh... heavily is owned by uh... your cushioner and and they've got a bunch of uh... investments in the the gaming sector and technology and stuff like that so uh... yet i mean big win for investors on this and you know that the big win because i don't know

[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I don't know works with the debt because I know that like I mean they sold off at what 200 I think it was like two hundred and ten dollars a share So if you had invest invested in EA, I mean You probably walked away with some money how the the 20 billion in debt works that I don't understand I'll find the day

[SPEAKER_05]: But, um, dude, this is just, I mean, again, I, I feel like the writings have been on the wall, but more importantly,

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, too, if you're not looking at this Saudi Piff and, and again, I don't want to go too much into it and whatnot, but we we've been seeing it over the years and and you know, they're saying it as kind of like sports washing kind of because we know that there's a lot of human rights issues and things like that over there and and again, this happens in a bunch of companies, so I don't want to just say, oh specifically them, but it's just it's just weird amount of it's not weird, it's just the amount of money.

[SPEAKER_05]: And pull that they have in the sector, and especially with a company like that, and then you're talking about, you know, AI and and Ninantic with all their, you know, real time, you know, geographical data that they've gotten, you know, on the back end I imagine from a Pokemon go and things of that nature like

[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know man, keep your eyes on it, you know, I don't want to put on a tin foil hat, but it's definitely something that I personally in, you know, when I first announced it, I'll like, dude, this is absolutely huge.

[SPEAKER_05]: So it's something that I am continuing to monitor as they make moves and whatnot.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I'm with you there.

[SPEAKER_03]: I definitely think it's something to just kind of like, I don't want to say wait and see, but I'm curiously watching it unfold myself, like with the fighting games involvement in like eSports World Cup and stuff, and you think it's a great production, but there has been a lot of conversation and debate around that, just like the eSports World Cup in general.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's like so much money.

[SPEAKER_03]: It's an insane amount of money.

[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't really blame anyone for, yeah, I'm going to go compete in that, even if I get eight

[SPEAKER_03]: It is really interesting to watch and I'm reserving how I feel until I feel as though there's I just I don't know it's it is unique right because it's like we don't know how this is going to end up we don't know what this is going to like the end result will be but it is very I don't want to say concerning but it's just like wow there's a lot of investment in a very short time in this very like niche industry as how it feels to me

[SPEAKER_02]: Well, look at it this way though, too, because like, also Piff now owns Evo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: with everything that's not even considering like you know I mean obviously your values and things will change will naturally go to whatever their push is going to be so we're going to be seeing a giant change of like how games are going to be like you know interpreted especially from how like you know art from from some of these studios like what like EA and stuff like I don't know if we're going to be seeing the same kind of stuff like like uh you imagine like a dragon age game being made

[SPEAKER_02]: with from a salty back of salty funded game thing some of the stuff that was in that game with the not with not fly in my opinion right in my opinion so so we'll see we'll see how that's going to be but then I was looking this up and then the way it works is that it because of the kind of buyout that this is the oh I didn't even know it's got packed and it's over the own Uber I did not know that that is crazy

[SPEAKER_05]: That's insane.

[SPEAKER_05]: I did not know that either, but that is insanity.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're saying because of the way that this buy out is because it's a leverage buy out funded by by private equity.

[SPEAKER_02]: So they're saying that the transaction will be funded by a combination of the cash from from each of the PIF silver lake and affinity partners as well as the roll over PIFs existing stake in EA.

[SPEAKER_02]: So they already own certain a certain amount of 10%.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: constituting an equity investment of approximately $36 billion.

[SPEAKER_02]: So they owe, they will pay $36 billion.

[SPEAKER_02]: The difference is the $50 is the $20 million that EA already has that they have that they owe.

[SPEAKER_02]: So essentially, EA owns $20 billion to JP Morgan Chase Bank of that.

[SPEAKER_02]: So because it's going

[SPEAKER_02]: that that means that EA is on the hook for that not not the investors directly and so they're saying that the what's immediately paid back is going to be the is 18 billion dollars which is expected to be funded at close so unless EA has some ridiculous amount of money on the back-hand side I don't know how they're going to do it but we're going to see probably squeeze a lot more Michael transactions like probably go to say

[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, that Xbox cloud gaming five hour deal doesn't sound that bad anymore.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's just going to drop that.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: I'm about to feel six.

[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what's going to happen.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Jananigans.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's unforeseen territory.

[SPEAKER_02]: I we don't know.

[SPEAKER_02]: I guess what it is is that we don't know what this means is what is.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so like we'd know like I mean we'd just we'd like friends we're still on the early games of Niantic getting bought out so we don't know how any of that's going to go and you know that's going to work and I have friends that work at Niantic and they're saying that they're they're they're fine right now but they don't know what they're what they're expecting but But they're saying that they're they're trading it like every day but we like as you know when these when these things happen We got to wait a year maybe two years and see what this is going to go so

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't know what they what's in store with with with EA, but I just think on the face on on just on the facial the face level, I'm see where I'm going to see massively lay off, especially amount of money, they don't when you would you spend this kind of cash, there's no room for error, they're going to

[SPEAKER_02]: As much as they possibly going to skim until they're going to get get acquire that money right back and then some so we're going to see studio closures We're definitely going to be seeing us to the different kinds of layouts We're going to see a lot of cancellations of games that we don't think is going to be wasting their their time They're going to be focusing on stuff that will give them

[SPEAKER_02]: the maximum amount of money, which is going to be maddened at the FC series and some other stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: So we probably won't see any of these crazy dead spaces, dead space remakes, or no more mass effects.

[SPEAKER_02]: Dragon Age is probably going to be something gone at this point under the AA title.

[SPEAKER_02]: I won't be surprised if like what if this is like tin foil hat, what if, but what if

[SPEAKER_02]: that will probably see it in a different kind of tone.

[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, so anyways, but yeah, I don't know man.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's scary, but like this is the expected date for this deal to go through.

[SPEAKER_02]: So I imagine, you know,

[SPEAKER_05]: it will be business is usual but again it'll be interesting to see if they make some aggressive monetization moves to try to be able to pay off that debt there.

[SPEAKER_02]: So basically A, B, E, A at that point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not, the PIF is in the problem.

[SPEAKER_02]: The problem is like, well, the PIF is the problem of where it's coming from.

[SPEAKER_02]: That's what that's what it is.

[SPEAKER_02]: But when it comes to studios and stuff, the PIF really doesn't own a lot of studios sway yet, but they can, which is going to be the, which is the worrying factor.

[SPEAKER_02]: If anything more of a monopoly, I would say Microsoft has a bigger monopoly than more more to do with all this stuff, so like, and I feel like Microsoft goes the bad that they're going, I will not be surprised if some of these big studios are getting these like, you know, like, I mean, Bethesda would probably get destroyed with all these different kinds of stuff.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then you got Activision Blizzard in stuff, just alone that,

[SPEAKER_02]: like that's all being the entity of just one company.

[SPEAKER_02]: It's not good.

[SPEAKER_02]: They should have said no to this merger.

[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I said I would have said no to this virtual lock to have to go to some other group but anyways, I digress.

[SPEAKER_02]: But anyway, we need some sort of level of good news, man.

[SPEAKER_02]: This has been this been a bummed out week.

[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, do you have anything Virginia with you got?

[SPEAKER_03]: So actually on last Monday, I got to speak with a wonderful awesome fighting game player named Legion.

[SPEAKER_03]: You guys have probably seen her story all over social media if you follow fighting games at all.

[SPEAKER_03]: Even if you don't, she had her baby.

[SPEAKER_03]: I want to say on September 27th.

[SPEAKER_03]: just kidding.

[SPEAKER_03]: She had it on September 22nd, not 27th.

[SPEAKER_03]: So she had her daughter Sarisa named after Bayonetta, of course.

[SPEAKER_03]: She had her by c-section and it was a very complicated delivery because she had what is called a uterine window, which basically means your uterus is

[SPEAKER_03]: So then that it's transparent so you can actually see the baby inside and that happens because of previous c-sections she did have a baby last year who did pass away after a few days.

[SPEAKER_03]: So this pregnancy was very wanted it was very you know.

[SPEAKER_03]: How do I say like it was a risky pregnancy because of all these complications, but baby born healthy baby serases here five days later after see section she goes to her local fighting in tournament and she wins moral combat.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think it was moral combat 11 XL.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, yeah crazy.

[SPEAKER_03]: I can't imagine.

[SPEAKER_03]: I think we were talking about this earlier.

[SPEAKER_03]: I couldn't imagine after such a major surgery and after such like a you know crazy like oh my my I had a baby and I also had surgery like going to a local and not only that like she was playing with her baby in her arms.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so cute and just like a really heartwarming story, some people online were like, wow, like the grand prize was only $28, but she also won tickets to go to three-pack Atlanta with her husband.

[SPEAKER_01]: Wow, that's awesome.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so it was a very, very, very cool, um,

[SPEAKER_03]: cool story.

[SPEAKER_03]: Really awesome like story about, you know, perseverance and pushing through.

[SPEAKER_03]: And I, as I said, I think she's built different.

[SPEAKER_03]: She is just.

[SPEAKER_00]: She clearly is built different.

[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

[SPEAKER_00]: Background's definitely Robo Cop.

[SPEAKER_03]: She literally is on Twitter.

[SPEAKER_03]: She wrote, you know, so glad that we left the house and did this.

[SPEAKER_03]: Our daughter so chill around noise and car rides, possibly because I traveled so much while it was pregnant.

[SPEAKER_03]: I never want to stop doing things that I love.

[SPEAKER_03]: I just need to adjust my life accordingly for our younger daughter.

[SPEAKER_03]: I just want people to feel like no matter what they can do things they still love, even if it's in small chunks.

[SPEAKER_03]: Um, she also wanted to highlight, you know, how very serious pregnancy and childbirth is, and she also wanted to highlight, um, I think it's called Nord, and it is the National Organization for Rare Diseases, because her first child did pass away because of a rare condition.

[SPEAKER_03]: I, she had like a tumor, um, it was, it was just a very interesting disease or condition,

[SPEAKER_03]: her baby's like medical records to Nord to help do more research so that we can find curious for things like this.

[SPEAKER_03]: So if you guys are interested, please go donate to Nord if you can it's on my Twitter, it's on her Twitter.

[SPEAKER_03]: really, really good organization.

[SPEAKER_03]: They're doing a lot of really cool stuff.

[SPEAKER_03]: But also just like a really heartwarming story, you know, to go to your local five days after giving birth with your child and do something that you love, you know, just because you're a parent doesn't mean that your own life stops you just have to adjust accordingly.

[SPEAKER_03]: And again, she's a boss like I could not imagine doing something like that.

[SPEAKER_03]: So congrats to her congrats on the new baby and yeah, that was that was my happiness for the week It was so good talking to her and I think even because it went pretty viral online and I She fell for you as you remember California

[SPEAKER_03]: No, I think she's in Orlando, Florida.

[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

[SPEAKER_03]: Your story went so viral that the Canadian broadcasting that were reached out to me and they were like, hey, can you get her in touch with us?

[SPEAKER_03]: Because we want to do a story about her on our network.

[SPEAKER_03]: And so yeah, like it's just such a positive story from the community and I really love stuff like that because that just goes to show you know this is the FTC is so great and it's it's just such a wonderful place to be and you know, place to have a place in the community and you know, per

[SPEAKER_03]: So Reza's already part of the community charred you on her first turn of it.

[SPEAKER_03]: She's only five days old.

[SPEAKER_03]: What?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wow.

[SPEAKER_05]: She has such a beast.

[SPEAKER_05]: I know.

[SPEAKER_05]: Is such a beast.

[SPEAKER_05]: And I say that in a most endearing way.

[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Because that is.

[SPEAKER_05]: And you're right, too.

[SPEAKER_05]: I love.

[SPEAKER_05]: You know, what she said, because as a parent, you know, it is tough to juggle, you know, being a parent and and taking care of your kids needs, but also making sure that you're taking care of your needs and being able to do things that you enjoy and that are fun to you or be able to unwind or still be competitive.

[SPEAKER_05]: I love that for I think that it's so inspiring to be able to see that.

[SPEAKER_05]: I mean,

[SPEAKER_05]: I, I, I, that's insane.

[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_05]: Like, how like, and the baby's there, like, I'm going to turn them in real quick.

[SPEAKER_05]: Come on, baby, let's go do this.

[SPEAKER_04]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

[SPEAKER_02]: It was really good, that trauma in itself.

[SPEAKER_04]: I was just surprised with the level.

[SPEAKER_02]: Just the fact that she was able to just say, you know, like, cause I mean, the sea section, like, I don't know if no one knows, but like, when you have a sea section, I mean, they're obviously getting your stomach, your stomach is your core.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then when you take off, when you cut your core, like that, and the way they have to take a baby out from your,

[SPEAKER_02]: your stomach is incredibly weak.

[SPEAKER_02]: So that means that your core itself is incredibly weak.

[SPEAKER_02]: So everything kind of movement is painful, tough, and very difficult.

[SPEAKER_02]: And to say that the her husband and her decided to say, you know what, we can't be late on her first else, like our, our, our, our, our local tournament to go for this, for this thing.

[SPEAKER_02]: And then they decided to go in the car, bring the baby along.

[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, okay, and we're going to be, it's like,

[SPEAKER_02]: In her arms, there was a phone literally ever in the arms while with the controller.

[SPEAKER_02]: Unbelievable.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, she is definitely built it for that is unbelievable.

[SPEAKER_02]: That is so awesome to see good for her.

[SPEAKER_02]: That is, that's awesome.

[SPEAKER_03]: Mom's are built different.

[SPEAKER_02]: Do you know, absolutely, especially the strength of that her in just in general, I mean for everything that's that's happened to her and then just to do that is just wow.

[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely resilient as hell like

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so much.

[SPEAKER_02]: Great for me.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, Virginia.

[SPEAKER_02]: So once you tell us where folks can go check you out and see you again.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so I'm really active on Twitter.

[SPEAKER_03]: You can find me at Dixerto, Virginia.

[SPEAKER_03]: Same handle over on Instagram.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's where all my cosplay stuff goes.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's where all my fitness and weight type content goes.

[SPEAKER_03]: If you want to see me punch stuff, you want to see me dressing up like a crazy character.

[SPEAKER_03]: That's where I will be.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

[SPEAKER_02]: I missed you dressed up as your manon at evil.

[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, oh, I know you just up you cosplay as manon at evil.

[SPEAKER_02]: That was like, I don't know how I missed that.

[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it was so funny.

[SPEAKER_03]: I was actually I had a lot of people say that they're like, oh, I saw you by didn't know it was you because you looked so different and I'm like, yeah, the pink wig will throw anybody off.

[SPEAKER_02]: Did you have the glasses too?

[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you did.

[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so I'll get to remind you I just didn't know it was you.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I knew there's a pretty reach it's like a regional tournament happening in SoCal on November 8th.

[SPEAKER_03]: I will be Manon there as well in her alt one.

[SPEAKER_03]: So if you want to swing by I'll be there.

[SPEAKER_02]: Very awesome.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, definitely with glad I'm glad you were able to come and geek out with us here with really.

[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, thanks so much for having me with such a good time.

[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, thank you.

[SPEAKER_02]: And folks, thank you for listening to episode number 280 of the CFG Gamecast.

[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for being a part of the conversation as always.

[SPEAKER_02]: We will be back again next week with a whole new series of different topics.

[SPEAKER_02]: So there is, but if you did miss on this episode, that is perfectly all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: guys also be sure go check out smithies article about the uh about the uh Victor's pro control BFG uh controller on our website conference skis.com but we will always be out there checking some awesome new content as always.

[SPEAKER_02]: So once again this is Davis Virginia and smithy signing out y'all take it easy.

[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, there we go.

[SPEAKER_02]: Ah, there we go.

[SPEAKER_04]: Awesome.

[SPEAKER_02]: Hell yeah.